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re: All we need is good QB play right?

Posted on 7/14/15 at 7:00 am to
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12139 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 7:00 am to
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You attempt to explain this away as playing soft rushing defenses and the running backs EXPLODING, against the #58, #117, and #72 rushing defenses. At no point have you tried to explain why the running backs were not able to achieve similar results against defenses who, against the run, ranked #56, #76, #73, #86, in addition to an FCS school.


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Tell it to Nick Saban who made Lee piss his pants and who lost to Jefferson. Why was Jefferson able to be more effective if they had such similar styles of play?



Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47984 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 9:19 am to
What's really laughable is he talks about JJ'S 46% of our entire offensive output against #2 Bama in 2011 as being insignificant yet JLEE'S entire career against bama was 14-58 316 yards 24% completion 1td- 7ints.


Jarret Lee vs Bama regular season
14 completions
58 pass attempts
24% completion
1td
7 ints
JJ vs Bama regular season
26 completions
40 attempts
65% completion
2 tds
O ints

So he can knock JJ'S stats against bama all he wants.FACTS PROVE HE WAS MORE SUCCESSFUL THAN JLEE.
Posted by HuRRiCaNe MiLeS
Bossier City
Member since Jan 2010
8153 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 9:28 am to
Jennings to be cleared this week.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47984 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 9:31 am to
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Jennings to be cleared this week.





Really?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170436 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 9:33 am to
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a link showing JJ'S agility(3cone drill) and explosiveness (20 yard shuttle) so yes you can measure agility. count that as one of the many things you've been PROVEN wrong about

That measures explosiveness. Not agility. JJ had a decent burst but was a clumsy and indecisive runner.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12139 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 9:34 am to
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14-58 316 yards 24% completion 1td- 7ints.


24/58 41.4%
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 10:44 am to
Do most quarterbacks run the 3 cone drill? No? Again, you're an idiot that doesn't understand when something's irrelevant given the context of a conversation
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 10:52 am
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 10:48 am to
Weren't you just saying that you thought Lee was the better quarterback? And I'm the one that changes my arguments? And I've said repeatedly that being better than Lee isn't an accomplishment because Lee sucked too so what's your point? The fact that you think that a quarterback passing for 67 yards and running for 40 yards in a game is some kind of accomplishment because it's better than Lee shows how clueless you are
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 10:50 am to
Did you start that thread yet you scared little bitch? I don't think so, so walk out of this thread with your tail between your legs again, I already told you that I wasn't going to talk about this with you anymore until you did the rant the justice of explaining to them why they're wrong about Jefferson being a bad QB
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12139 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:04 am to
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The fact that you think that a quarterback passing for 67 yards and running for 40 yards in a game is some kind of accomplishment because it's better than Lee shows how clueless you are


The fact that you continue to stress passing yards instead of total yards when comparing the two QBs shows how clueless you are.

6 TEAMS failed to rush for as many yards against Alabama as Jordan Jefferson did in the November game. In addition, only John Brantley had higher yards per attempt than Jefferson did on his 10 attempts (most were under 5.0 ypa).
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47984 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:07 am to
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That measures explosiveness. Not agility. JJ had a decent burst but was a clumsy and indecisive runne


3 cone drill most definitely measures agility.
like I said. 3 cone drill measures agility. Stop getting destroyed and bow out.
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:08 am to
Go share that logic with the rant then and then I'll admit that Jefferson was a good QB after your sound logic and well thought out arguments change the reasonable people on this websites minds
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12139 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:09 am to
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reasonable people on this websites


Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:10 am to
Who gives a shite? Herb Tyler never ran it and that's who we were comparing to JJ. There's no way to compare his agility, speed, etc. to Jordan Jefferson's but it's clear that he was a much more agile, elusive runner if you've ever seen him play. Stop steering the conversation into irrelevant shite
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:11 am to
There are quite a few so go change their minds obviously I'm not agreeing because I'm a dumbass and don't understand football so go clear Jefferson's name with all of the people that'll actually understand why they're remembering him incorrectly
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47984 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:15 am to
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most quarterbacks run the 3 cone drill? No? Again, you're an idiot that doesn't understand when something's irrelevant given the context of a conversation



You said you can't measure agility when in fact you can. I guess now that you've been proven wrong you'll say how that doesn't matter. JJ had a higher 3 cone drill( agility) than Russell Wilson who is known as a good runner. So thus notion that JJ was agile is pure bullshite
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12139 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:17 am to
There are 124,660 registered users on this site. If I'm being generous, there are probably 4,660 of them that understand the game and concepts thereof. You are not among them.

Of those, probably 660 of them are able to put aside the images of Jefferson throwing a crystal football to Trey Depriest and getting arrested for simple battery and marijuana possession.

But you want to use upvotes and downvotes as the determining criteria.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47984 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:21 am to
those, probably 660 of them are able to put aside the images of Jefferson throwing a crystal football to Trey Depriest and getting arrested for simple battery and marijuana possession

Exactly.
Since 1970 no sec program has produced more nfl qbs than lsu.
If you were to ask people if being ranked top 6 in every major passing statistic at a top 15 alltime program ,that has produced pretty nfl qbs than any other sec program since 1970, was a good career, everyone of them would say yes.

While JJ wasn't great he definitely wasn't a horrible qb and facts prove it. Facts out weigh biased opinion every day.
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 11:22 am
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:22 am to
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