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re: After reading the story by Ross Dellenger - I feel better about Coach O than ever !

Posted on 3/11/18 at 6:03 pm to
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
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Posted on 3/11/18 at 6:03 pm to
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The only fact that I stated was that Canada doesn't run the type of offense that Orgeron wants to run.

Which, to me, speaks even worse of Orgeron. It means he didn’t do his due diligence because everything Canada ran was on tape.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
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Posted on 3/11/18 at 6:12 pm to
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Which, to me, speaks even worse of Orgeron. It means he didn’t do his due diligence because everything Canada ran was on tape.




Or even worse, he did know and didn't care, because he too thought, "Ah well, he's a hot commodity, I'm sure this will work out. All I have to do is hire the best and they will let me coast."
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 3/11/18 at 6:21 pm to
The rant told Derek to hire Canada who told O.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
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Posted on 3/11/18 at 6:30 pm to
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See, this where you are incorrect IMO. The only fact that I stated was that Canada doesn't run the type of offense that Orgeron wants to run. Honestly, I don't see how there is any way to dispute that.


Well we are just discussing two separate parts of one post (I think). I was talking about the speculation/fact part of your post. I was not arguing the basic premise.

May be my fault. That is why I had no idea why you were all of a sudden talking to me about the USC offense. My bad !!!
Posted by BigTimer23
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Posted on 3/11/18 at 6:35 pm to
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Rumblings = rumors.


And you don’t think the “rumors” of a rift proved to be accurate given Canada’s exit at season’s end?

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Just because the media makes up stupid rumors does not make it the HC's job to help the idiots.


Again, if these were nothing more than “stupid rumors,” then Matt Canada would still be the OC at LSU. The “stupid rumors” very clearly had merit, and these two very clearly did not get along. The Head Coach is responsible for maintaining the stability of the program, and letting “stupid rumors” run rampant is anything other than promoting stability or cohesiveness within the coaching staff.

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Not a botched hiring anymore?


I must be misunderstanding you. Are you actually saying it’s not a botch job since Canada is no longer here?.. There is no greater indication of it being a botch job of epic proportions than the fact that he is no longer here.
Posted by TigerLunatik
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 3/11/18 at 6:37 pm to
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Well we are just discussing two separate parts of one post (I think). 

Probably so. We're good.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
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Posted on 3/11/18 at 6:54 pm to
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And you don’t think the “rumors” of a rift proved to be accurate given Canada’s exit at season’s end?


Just saying that there also rumors that the rift was between Aranda and Canada. I read that Aranda one time wanted the offense to run basic plays to practice against an upcoming opponent and Canada refused and continued to run sweeps. Also read that Dave and Matt's wives got into a heated confrontation. Also, that it was the main reason Aranda started looking for employment elsewhere - Green Bay and then A&M. Canada left and Aranda stayed. Is all that true? I have no idea? Are the Eaux - Canada rumors true? Again I have no idea.

So there are multiple rumors involving different people/coaches. I won't pretend that I know which ones are correct. If any of them are.

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and letting “stupid rumors” run rampant is anything other than promoting stability or cohesiveness within the coaching staff.


I disagree. A coach needs to talk to his staff not the media or fans. IF there were problems, they will not be solved by the Advocate or NOLA websites. They should be handled internally.

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I must be misunderstanding you. Are you actually saying it’s not a botch job since Canada is no longer here?.. There is no greater indication of it being a botch job of epic proportions than the fact that he is no longer here.


Questioning the terminology. Up until the last couple pages it was referred to as a botched hire. It was not a batched hire and that is what I was saying.

Now you are calling it a batched job. I assume you are trying to blame Coach Eaux just like the idiots calling it a botched hire. But I'm not really sure what you are insinuating. Maybe both of us are misunderstanding what the other is saying.
Posted by TigerLunatik
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 3/11/18 at 7:05 pm to
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A coach needs to talk to his staff not the media or fans. IF there were problems, they will not be solved by the Advocate or NOLA websites. They should be handled internally. 

Agree 100%
Posted by Mayhawman
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Posted on 3/11/18 at 8:05 pm to
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I think there's probably better chance of O letting the coaches coach than Miles and I'm not so sure O can do it either.
One of these isn't like the other in offensive football terms.
Miles, an ex-OC, absolutely pwns the Offensive record book at LSU, while Ed has never been a coordinator, much less offensive coordinator, and his meddling has produced disastrous results at 2 programs.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 3/11/18 at 8:10 pm to
I agree with that in principle, but the offense Miles was running in the later years needs to be scrapped for good. I probably should've included that in the original post. At this point, I would rather O's vision of an offense over what Miles was running.
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/11/18 at 8:14 pm to
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Coach Eaux

Will you stop with this nonsense? The freakin guy is already Cajun without you dipshits trying to be cute with his name.
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 3/11/18 at 8:56 pm to
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2013: 15 Clemson 2014: 16 Clemson 2015: 9 Clemson 2016: 11 Clemson 2017: 16 Clemson


Clemson’s recruiting stats are very surprising. I’ll give you that. However, you are giving O way too much rope to hang himself if you think that the LSU offensive staff is in the same stratosphere as Clemson’s. That is why recruiting is so important for O.
This post was edited on 3/11/18 at 9:01 pm
Posted by Mayhawman
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/11/18 at 9:07 pm to
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At this point, I would rather O's vision of an offense over what Miles was running.
Are we sure what that vision is? I think it's what ever sounds good publicly.

There's a lot of clamor about spread, but fear a wholesale swap will be a disaster being implemented by an OC who hasn't recruited for or practiced it at this level.
I doubt Ensminger would commit to this suicide.

So far his best showing was running Cameron's (or Miles?) offense.
Posted by TigerLunatik
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 3/11/18 at 9:09 pm to
All valid points.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
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Posted on 3/11/18 at 9:10 pm to
Didn’t read, downvote
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:37 am to
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9 wins under Eaux in his first year while playing over 30 freshmen with 8 starting, adding Fehoko, Giles, Shelvin, an O-line coach that has given up the fewest sacks in a season at two P5 conferences, etc = we comin !!!


so how many wins this year? 8? 9? double digit winning season?

put your money where your keyboard is hotshot.

If they match their win total of the 2017 regular season, 9, you win, lets say $500. If they win less than 9, you owe me $500.

how much faith you got in O, Tiger Ree?



This post was edited on 3/12/18 at 8:39 am
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 8:42 am to
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Are you asking me to tell you about Urban Meyer's OC and what he did in a game?

Do you want me to tell you how Urban Meyer's offense has not skipped a beat since Hotlips has been gone. How Urban's offense has actually been better in some of the few seasons since Hotlips left.


this is unquestionably false and all you have to do is find any ohio state fan and ask them.

you truly are clueless.
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 10:05 am to
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After reading the story by Ross Dellenger - I feel better about Coach O than ever !

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"if LSU goes 9-3 in 2018 that will be a huge success for O"



I have to agree with that one myself. Bama finally has a Great QB to go along with the rest of the top tier talent and depth. Georgia may be just as good. NO matter how great a coaching job that's almost two automatic losses right there. Tough, very tough schedule.


thats fcking loser talk right there. some of the most embarrassing shite I have ever seen posted on this board. and how many times exactly did fans make excuses for Les or Saban when they faced a tough schedule?

Ed O: resetting expectations since 2016.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38392 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 10:08 am to
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Ed O: resetting expectations since 2016.


Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
32992 posts
Posted on 3/12/18 at 10:23 am to
yessssssss
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