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re: Advocate Article on J. Lee...
Posted on 8/12/10 at 2:20 pm to FootballNostradamus
Posted on 8/12/10 at 2:20 pm to FootballNostradamus
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That also doesn't factor in that Hatch played some in the third quarter.
What quarter was it when he was lost for the season?
An it's not like hatch threw many passes when he was in
This post was edited on 8/12/10 at 2:22 pm
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Posted on 8/12/10 at 3:33 pm to Roaad
if you think jj will be the qb for the next two years God help us. That would absolutly cost miles his job. I cant imagine what he sees in jj as a qb but if he refuses to give someone else a chance when jj screws up and we go three and out over and over again, look for a long season.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 3:45 pm to davleb
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if you think jj will be the qb for the next two years God help us. That would absolutly cost miles his job. I cant imagine what he sees in jj as a qb but if he refuses to give someone else a chance when jj screws up and we go three and out over and over again, look for a long season.
Dude go watch the fourth quarter of the Alabama game last season and the LA Tech game if you want to see why Miles plays JJ even when he screws up.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 3:45 pm to davleb
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if you think jj will be the qb for the next two years God help us. That would absolutly cost miles his job. I cant imagine what he sees in jj as a qb but if he refuses to give someone else a chance when jj screws up and we go three and out over and over again, look for a long season
JJ, like all college players can develop and improve. He needs to work on his game awareness, its certainly possible.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 3:55 pm to DeltaDoc
Go away dummy 
Posted on 8/12/10 at 4:04 pm to DeltaDoc
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Mechanics and the fear of contact IMHO.
Not sure the "fear of contact", as you elegantly put it, is true. Ask Auburn in 2008. Pretty sure that TD pass came with a guy breathing down his neck. He took a helluva hit that play
Posted on 8/12/10 at 4:07 pm to slackster
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Not sure the "fear of contact", as you elegantly put it, is true. Ask Auburn in 2008. Pretty sure that TD pass came with a guy breathing down his neck. He took a helluva hit that play
Not to be a hater, but that's exactly what we're talking about. Lee threw to a spot - it worked out - but he felt the pressure and simply threw the ball to where the receiver is supposed to be in the route. This same practice caused a lot of INTs in 2008.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 4:08 pm to Dead Fish
Dead Fish and Doc,
You two seem to get some type of arousal from knocking on JL. Quite disturbing.
And the comment that JL is a "horrible" QB is absurd. People on here are riding Zach Lee's knob, and he has proven nothing, except the fact that he was rated lower than JL coming out of high school. What idiots.
You two seem to get some type of arousal from knocking on JL. Quite disturbing.
And the comment that JL is a "horrible" QB is absurd. People on here are riding Zach Lee's knob, and he has proven nothing, except the fact that he was rated lower than JL coming out of high school. What idiots.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 4:13 pm to Antonio Moss
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but he felt the pressure and simply threw the ball to where the receiver is supposed to be in the route.
please detail how he should've handled that play...
Posted on 8/12/10 at 4:17 pm to ForeLSU
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please detail how he should've handled that play...
As a coach, I'd rather the QB eat the ball on that play than simply throw blindly to a spot.
Again, it worked and I'm happy it did. But this same practice caused a lot of INTs in 2008.
Hell, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Lee did see Mitchell get a step on his guy on the break, but from what I saw, he saw the pressure coming and threw to the spot where Mitchell was supposed to be.
I distinctly remember watching it and getting jacked up about the touchdown but telling my friend that it looked like Lee just threw it up.
I'm going to try to find the clip and watch it again.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 4:19 pm to Antonio Moss
Jesus 
Even if he did throw up a prayer, to which you suggest, he still took the hit. Not sure how that defines his fear of contact.
Even if he did throw up a prayer, to which you suggest, he still took the hit. Not sure how that defines his fear of contact.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 4:21 pm to slackster
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Even if he did throw up a prayer, to which you suggest, he still took the hit. Not sure how that defines his fear of contact.
Fear of contact meaning he'll throw the ball into the field of play before taking a sack.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 4:27 pm to slackster
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Dead Fish and Doc,
You two seem to get some type of arousal from knocking on JL. Quite disturbing.
I have no doubt there are people who will pull against LSU if Lee is in the game.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 4:27 pm to slackster
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Jesus
Even if he did throw up a prayer, to which you suggest, he still took the hit. Not sure how that defines his fear of contact.
What about in bama 2008 when he stepped out of bounds instead of getting the first and lsu had to punt?
Posted on 8/12/10 at 4:27 pm to slackster
Though it is still an open question, it is certainly possible for JL to shake his demons. And I really hope he can, because we will need him this year. When was the last time LSU went through a season without losing our starting QB for at least a game.
I think the healing needs to begin in the UNC game. Let JJ fake an injury (say he goes down holding an ankle) and bring on JL. Line up like we are going to just run the ball (to give JJ the time to get back on the field), but instead run a play action deep ball to TT. If JL hits it, he gets a major confidence boost. If he misses, no big deal as it is a low percentage throw anyway. If it's intercepted, it's pretty much a punt (not the end of the world). And with TT, even if he throws up a jump ball he's got a decent chance of completing it.
I think the healing needs to begin in the UNC game. Let JJ fake an injury (say he goes down holding an ankle) and bring on JL. Line up like we are going to just run the ball (to give JJ the time to get back on the field), but instead run a play action deep ball to TT. If JL hits it, he gets a major confidence boost. If he misses, no big deal as it is a low percentage throw anyway. If it's intercepted, it's pretty much a punt (not the end of the world). And with TT, even if he throws up a jump ball he's got a decent chance of completing it.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 4:30 pm to Antonio Moss
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I'm going to try to find the clip and watch it again.
don't bother, you have little, or no, ability to look at it objectively and will come back with a full explanation supporting your bias...just like a QB having a different set of mechanics for a given route.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 4:34 pm to ForeLSU
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don't bother, you have little, or no, ability to look at it objectively and will come back with a full explanation supporting your bias
I have no bias whatsoever. I just hate the misinformation that gets spread around this board. I defended Lee in 2008 much more than I defend Jefferson presently.
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...just like a QB having a different set of mechanics for a given route.
If you don't believe me, fine. But, without a doubt, Quarterbacks try release the ball as high as possible on short routes over the middle because they want to travel downwards to the receiver.
And I have continually and consistently criticized Jefferson's mechanics. I just thought it was awful foolish for people to jump to conclusions based on a single still shot for a throwing session.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 4:37 pm to mtntiger
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Those same coaches, I believe, did him a disservice by not giving him meaningful opportunities in games prior to him being called into service v. Alabama. A good hitter doesn't pull himself out of a slump by sitting on the bench.
Looks like you've been reading my posts. JL will NEVER get better and improve by sitting on the bench. When you don't play and finally get a chance, you press in trying to make a play and often make a mistake. Miles and Crowton need to let JL and JJ split reps 50/50 or 60/40 through the first four games, then decide who gets the call for the rest of the year.......
Posted on 8/12/10 at 4:40 pm to TigerBandAlumnus82
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Miles and Crowton need to let JL and JJ split reps 50/50 or 60/40 through the first four games, then decide who gets the call for the rest of the year.......
That may be the worst idea I have ever heard posted on this board. And that's saying something.
You do realize in the first four games we play:
#19 North Carolina
Vanderbilt
A Mississippi State team that almost beat us last year.
#24 West Virgina
You drop two of those first four games and you probably kill your chances of New Year's Day bowl, because we aren't running the table in the SEC.
Posted on 8/12/10 at 4:49 pm to TheDoc
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What about in bama 2008 when he stepped out of bounds instead of getting the first and lsu had to punt?
Not a smart play, but QBs step out all the time.
On another note, I just watched a highlight of that game. If we were even remotely in coverage with Julio Jones we win that game hands down. He killed us.
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