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re: A truly remarkable LSU/Les Miles stat: Winningest SEC team since 2005

Posted on 8/13/14 at 11:44 am to
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
4734 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 11:44 am to
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Sure they all do, how consistently when compared to LSU?
Wait, are you arguing for or against Miles?

You're such a moron. Can you think of one key position that was not recruited very well at LSU during that period?
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 11:57 am to
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Why only 9 years




Because Les has been here nine years and we are talking about his time at LSU. How fricking hard is that to understand?
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 12:36 pm to
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If you ain't first youre last


thanks, Cleetus

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Or the countless losses to teams that LSU shouldve beaten easily


stopped reading here
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 3:05 pm to
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Because with almost any statistic, you can pick the criteria to yield different results.


We are talking bout LSU football wins in a 9 yr. period of time under Miles. What other valid results are there but 95? We are talking where these 95 wins rank LSU among other schools playng in the BCS for 9 yrs. What other valid result is there but #1? We are talking bout SEC wins in this same 9 yr. period and where the LSU SEC wins rank us. What other valid result is there but #1.

Like Miles or not, but LSU has NEVER come close to experiencing a 9 yr period of success the likes we have had under his leadership before in our history.

Makes it pretty dang easy for me to forgive a few failures.

This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 3:08 pm
Posted by bama ted
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2014
28 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 3:16 pm to
Miles is a great guy who should be appreciated more by his fans. Saban might be a better coach, but he is not a better man.
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
Pelicans, Saints, & LSU Fan
Member since May 2009
83413 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 3:16 pm to
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but he is not a better man.



you know Saban personally???
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19707 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 3:45 pm to
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Because Les has been here nine years and we are talking about his time at LSU. How fricking hard is that to understand?


I get it.

But my point was that one can always find a way to calculate stats to fit their purpose. Remember, there are lies, damned lies, and statistics.

For example, two of those 9 years are pre-Saban Alabama.

If we start counting wins when Saban arrived at Bama, Bama has 6 more wins, 79-73 (I included the vacated wins).

Don't get me wrong, I like Miles. I'm just looking at the numbers with eyes wide open.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
88576 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 3:49 pm to
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I get it.


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But my point was that one can always find a way to calculate stats to fit their purpose. Remember, there are lies, damned lies, and statistics.

For example, two of those 9 years are pre-Saban Alabama.

If we start counting wins when Saban arrived at Bama, Bama has 6 more wins, 79-73 (I included the vacated wins).

Don't get me wrong, I like Miles. I'm just looking at the numbers with eyes wide open.



Clearly you don't.
Posted by Mack
Member since Nov 2013
827 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 5:29 pm to
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Saban might be a better coach, but he is not a better man.



reduced to pinpointing moral victories. That's a defeatist attitude.

i'd rather have bama thinking of moral victories and Miles be beating Saban head to head, including in that 1-9-2012 national championship. Give me a coach good enough to keep the program out of trouble and stack championships and you can keep the bbq buddy.

Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 6:03 pm to
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Miles be beating Saban head to head


Perhaps you can point of to us a HC with more wins "head to head" over Nick/Bama than Miles.

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Give me a coach good enough to keep the program out of trouble and stack championships and you can keep the bbq buddy.


Again, what HC out there is stacking championships but the one at Bama and he is not returning to LSU.

If all you got is that Nick/Bama is having a better run right now, you really don't have shite.

Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 6:35 pm to
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Posted by Choctaw quote: If you ain't first youre last thanks, Cleetus quote: Or the countless losses to teams that LSU shouldve beaten easily stopped reading here


Yeah, I was watching ark re run from last year the other night.
If for not a miracle, we would have lost to a third string ole miss team, a 3 win ark team in the same season......, not to mention the curb stomp Alabama handed us.
And by 3 wins I mean 3 total fricking wins. pig sooey
The dismissal of these FACTS are the reason the term sunshine pumpers came to be.

I just think it's important to look at all sides.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40081 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 6:46 pm to
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I just think it's important to look at all sides.

Using your logic, one could say we easily could have only had 1 loss last year.

But you choose to count close wins as almost losses. So I'll count close losses as almost wins.
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 6:48 pm
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 7:41 pm to
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If for not a miracle


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The dismissal of these FACTS


If isn't a fact you dumb shite.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:56 pm to
Did we not come extremely close to losing to a 3 win team and lose to the other two I mentioned?

Dumb shite huh?


Some of you try way too hard to argue the facts just bc you don't like what they are.
Posted by blackjackjackson
fourth dimension
Member since May 2008
7683 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 10:42 pm to
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I'm not sure if this has been posted but I came across it yesterday:

AP Team Rankings 2002-2014

Overall Rankings:
1. Ohio State
2. LSU
3. Oklahoma




hoooooooooooooooo
leeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
shite!
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
Pelicans, Saints, & LSU Fan
Member since May 2009
83413 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 10:48 pm to
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Texas, pretty much avoided us at all costs



They have???
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40081 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 11:09 pm to
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Some of you try way too hard to argue the facts just bc you don't like what they are.


Yet you neglect the "FACT" that we were extremely close to having only 1 loss. It's all about perspective. You choose the pessimistic perspective and that's 100% OK. But don't talk down to others that aren't like-minded or write their views off as ridiculous when you're doing essentially the exact same thing, but on the flip side of the coin.
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 12:18 am to
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Did we not come extremely close to losing to a 3 win team


Who gives a shite if we came close? The Arkansas game came on a short week and after two big SEC games. Only retards play if and we come close games after a 13 game season.

If you have to play the we came close game, then we game close to going 12-1 last year. That's why playing if or we came close is retard like.
Posted by timm6971463
oakdale la
Member since Mar 2008
4387 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:20 am to
MILES IS THE man three times over; Geaux Tigers !
Posted by timm6971463
oakdale la
Member since Mar 2008
4387 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:43 am to
Not much of a tiger lee what Coach do you know who could out recruit ESPN and whip Slives's officials you don't know one,but if there's any one man who can do that it's Coach Miles and I think in the future he will force espn to change their attitude . Your man sabin is just a straw caught up in the winds of ESPN and the SEC administration no more no less !
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