re: A truly remarkable LSU/Les Miles stat: Winningest SEC team since 2005

you're special

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Nobody remembers the countless nailbiting wins against teams that LSU should have easily blown out by halftime.

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Which are still called wins

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Or the countless losses to teams that LSU shouldve beaten easily

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Nah they arent countless, pretty sure you could count them on one, maybe two hands.

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Will Les be the first LSU coach to lose to moo state in two decades? I think so. I wouldnt be surprised.

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Well hes beaten them 9 straight times in State's golden age of football soooo...

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Since the topic is most wins in nine years, why are you bringing up six years?

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Because with almost any statistic, you can pick the criteria to yield different results.

Why only 9 years? Why not 10? or 15? or 5? or 3? or anything? Why not use only conference wins? Or only wins against FBS opponents? Or wins against only ranked opponents? Or wins against the 5 power conference opponents?

No doubt Miles has had a great run here, but I'm always careful about looking at stats like this.

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Why only 9 years?

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Because that's how long Les has been the head coach at LSU?

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I look at it this way. There is no guarantee Saban would have done any better than Miles has the last 9 years had he stayed.

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Despite my appreciation for what Miles has done, I actually do think Saban would have done a little better than Miles had he stayed, and probably would have won 1-2 more national titles. Of course we'll never know, not that it matters anyway because he didn't stay... He obviously left, and we had to figure out a way to keep it going, which we did.

That said, it still doesn't take away from what Miles has accomplished at LSU. I never envisioned Miles would come in for a decade+ and continue and build upon the success Saban started, which he has obviously done. He's done a tremendous job, second to only one in the country in wins since 2005 ... Boise St., which as has been pointed out really doesn't count.

Being disgusted at losing the biggest game in all of sports in all of history in my opinion (1/9/2012) in the fashion that Miles did and then having bama fans very infamously treat LSU fans the way they did in nola after the game makes real LSU fans yearn for revenge.

Which would include a perfect season and a Bama curb stomping. Nothing less than perfection. Other sec teams have ran the table and dominated to a championship, there's no reason why LSU's talent cant do the same. You can't even start to argue with a Gump before they throw out "21-0"

Sure they all do, how consistently when compared to LSU?

Your point: LSU should have won 1 or 2 more national title under Miles in addition to the one that we did win under Miles.

I actually agree.

My only counter-point: It would have been nice to win another title or two (every school in the country can say this BTW), but does that 1-2 extra titles missed cause you so much pain that you feel the need to tear down the tremendous success that we did have during the period? To each his own, I guess, but I think that is a pretty sad attitude to have. Personally, I'm more of a "be proud of what we do have" guy than a "cry about what we don't have" guy. And considering what we "do have" is pretty much second to only one school (Bama), then there's quite a lot to be proud of as an LSU fan.

Ive been watching all the previous games on ESPN Classic. The one thing that was noticeable to me was the fact that the Saban led LSU teams made more mistakes than i remember. His teams were full of upperclassmen as well. Im not trying to say Les is better. Saban may be one of the best ever but he was certainly not head and shoulders above Miles at LSU . Hell, who cant win at easy Alabama?
Name a coach, who had success anywhere, that didnt win there? Its like Ohio State, if u show up each day, u win 8.

Miles is the real deal. He has proven his skills over and over again. Best record and u play in the SEC west? How do u fake this?

Has anyone had it tougher than Miles, since arriving on campus? The man is a winner and a tremendous leader. Its been 9 years boys. How long have u been at your job kicking butt every year?
Denial is not a good trait for the lost.

And to the clueless; The one's that want to bring up recruiting and other coaches to try and justify the HC's success:

He gets paid, "To Find A Way" to win games while maintaining,( improving in his case ) the Brand Name. Period. Nothing else to talk about. Measure that. Then ask
Who's doing better?

Whatever it is; let it go.