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re: A QB Who Can Run Will Cause RBs to Be More Productive
Posted on 10/2/11 at 3:03 am to RobbBobb
Posted on 10/2/11 at 3:03 am to RobbBobb
quote:What are you talking about?!?!
Thats all he has to work with
Dont blame him, youre the genius who posted that JJ makes the RBs more productive after a game where they picked up 1 total yd in 3 carries. Next time, wait til you have a better example to support your bias. He called you out. He used accurate data. And pissed on your whole theory
Its clear to everyone that when JJ is in the game, the defense will bring the house. It showed tonight, and will not get any better. 2 of 3 for loss with JJ, against 2 of 39 with Lee. Hard to stack the box against a guy who just tossed a 52 yd TD
You can only find three carries in one game?
Seriously. You can't find any other carries while Jefferson or Lee were QB? Not this year? Or last year? Or 2009? Or 2008?
There are entire seasons worth of carries to distill and compare, not just three carries from one game.
quote:No.
u mad?
u moron?
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Posted on 10/2/11 at 3:12 am to just me
quote:
It's not bias. I don't prefer one person over the person.
You may do a great job of convincing yourself of this, I doubt anyone else buys it. But, you are not alone. Neither is worthy of the absolute devotion some have for them.
This post was edited on 10/2/11 at 3:13 am
Posted on 10/2/11 at 3:14 am to just me
quote:
In short, I'm not biased. My opinion was formed after a careful analysis of the facts and issues.
Hey scooter, thats where youre misguided. I read your drivel for weeks about Lowery being not credible, Lowery started up with JJ, the video too grainy, no DNA was conclusive, the kicker was white
Yet when all was said and done, 10 of 12 GJ members determined that JJ did indeed, for no apparent reason, stomp Lowery in the head while in a defenseless position, and should go to trial for it
So you can go on about not being biased, all the while you search for loopholes, not facts. Because you were wrong on your entire "careful analysis of the facts and issues" in that instance
Its called cherry picking, and you do it only for JJ. So that makes it biased
Posted on 10/2/11 at 3:21 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I don't really care if a poster doesn't "buy it" that I'm not biased. I know it. Many other posters know it.
You may do a great job of convincing yourself of this, I doubt anyone else buys it.
quote:It's nice that you have built your little temple to the Church of Having No Opinion. It's cool to act aloof and pretend that you don't care. I have read your oft repeated posts that you're neutral and your frequent protestations about people who take a stand or have an opinion. I understand that you don't want to take any risk.
But, you are not alone. Neither is worthy of the absolute devotion some have for them.
It's cool. I get it. I understand you.
Posted on 10/2/11 at 3:25 am to just me
A passing QB is more effective in opening up the run game
Posted on 10/2/11 at 3:30 am to RobbBobb
quote:
Yet when all was said and done, 10 of 12 GJ members determined that [1] JJ did indeed, [2] for no apparent reason, [3] stomp Lowery [4] in the head [5] while in a defenseless position, and [6] should go to trial for it
Dude, just stop. Except for part [6] about it should go to trial, that is not at all what happened.
quote:I don't cherry pick. I use the most relevant stats available.
Its called cherry picking, and you do it only for JJ. So that makes it biased
This post was edited on 10/2/11 at 3:43 am
Posted on 10/2/11 at 3:41 am to just me
quote:
It's nice that you have built your little temple to the Church of Having No Opinion
I have an opinion. Your fan club membership is a bit over the top. Neither QB is a grade above the other though both are nice to have around. You think you know way more than you actually do and believe everyone should see things exactly like you... but that's ok, we are all opinionated.
Posted on 10/2/11 at 3:55 am to just me
quote:
that is not at all what happened.
trust me, that is exactly what was presented to the GJ. They just didnt want to hang a felony on him. But all the details will come out in the civil, so you can laugh off another instance of you being wrong, for now
Posted on 10/2/11 at 9:08 am to just me
quote:
Lee took 30% of the pass attempts in 2010
Good or bad many or JJ's pass attempts ended up as tucking the ball and running.Also JJ made good yardage on some of those plays. 12 yards when we needed 15 on third down.
Posted on 10/2/11 at 9:26 am to dreaux
quote:
but if JJ can throw as good as lee he needs to get more snaps
And IF my aunt had nuts she'd be my uncle. The whole issue with JJ is that he is close to passing threat as JL is to a running threat. He's had two years to demonstrate his passing ability and had rankings in triple digits, time to try something different.
Posted on 10/2/11 at 9:26 am to just me
A QB who can run should be able to balance that would good passing abilities. The OP's point is invalid.
Posted on 10/2/11 at 9:33 am to just me
quote:
You misunderstand. I don't intend to piss and moan about whether Jefferson gets the majority of the snaps
quote:
I think Lee should have gotten the majority of the snaps
quote:
I'm just here to educate and enlighten
Posted on 10/2/11 at 9:40 am to just me
What about when basic defenses stack the box (see Kentucky) and shut down the run? Adding another running option will suddenly open up their game? How about openin up the running game with idk, a passing game?
Posted on 10/2/11 at 9:58 am to just me
quote:
DTs, DEs, and LBs must account for a QB who can run on each play. Thus, even when a RB carries the ball, the RB will tend to gain more yards on the carry.
I don't think that's really that big of a deal...the thing JJ helps with in this case is giving the team a bigger variety of plays to run, i.e. zone read, getting the ball outside. An off tackle handoff isn't going to be a better play with one qb or the other.
Posted on 10/2/11 at 10:05 am to Deathrider
In HS we lost our top 3 QB to injury, the coach brought in a retired HS hall of Fame coach to help. We ran a box. Looked like 2 fullbacks,2 tailbacks
Center snapped the ball to one of the 4. Just because the a back got the ball from center did not make him a QB.
1st quarter they couldn't stop us. after that they killed us we 9 on the line with 2 db's.
JJ needs to pass a few times early in the game or he won't go far.And our rec. need to make hard catches.
Center snapped the ball to one of the 4. Just because the a back got the ball from center did not make him a QB.
1st quarter they couldn't stop us. after that they killed us we 9 on the line with 2 db's.
JJ needs to pass a few times early in the game or he won't go far.And our rec. need to make hard catches.
Posted on 10/2/11 at 10:05 am to just me
"JustMe" What relationship are you to jefferson????
Posted on 10/2/11 at 10:10 am to just me
Posted on 10/2/11 at 10:11 am to just me
Dude...just stop....you will never stop your love of JJ. We all know WHY this is so. Just stop. LSU is averaging more than 14 points a game more this year than last through 5 games....we MUST have a passing game to win it all.....that is why lsu lost to Auburn and Arky last year...and if not for JL bailing them out...likely to Alabama and florida. Just stop with the running crap.....haven't you learned over the last two years that we need more.....doesn't the 14 more points a game this year even register with you?
Posted on 10/2/11 at 10:14 am to Eighteen
rational? we are averaging 14 more points a game this year through the first five games.....have proven we can't win championships with a running qb only......but we STILL get this crap......this is so much about race, because obvioulsy performance is not being looked at....if it were...it is clear to see the drastic improvement from the last two years.
Posted on 10/2/11 at 10:15 am to just me
Run games can be stopped by def. like Bama and LSU....you need somone who can throw the ball down field to open up the run game.....like Drew Brees and the Saints.
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