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re: A balanced opinion on the wide receivers and dropped passes

Posted on 10/2/11 at 9:52 am to
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 10/2/11 at 9:52 am to
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It is usually not as much a matter of skill, but concentration, this comes from teaching and demands in practice


i think anybody that played wr will agree with you on this. and, concentration at the "moment of truth" can be taught and practiced. as a former baseball coach, our team worked on it every day and it improved the players ability to catch a smaller ball going a lot faster a hell of a lot. yea, no one was getting ready to hit them and maybe that's the problem. but they DO lose concentration way too much.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23496 posts
Posted on 10/2/11 at 9:52 am to
We had a lot of drops for sure in the Oregon game too. It really isn't excusable.

Also a drop is considered a catchable pass. So I don't see why we are just defaulting to Lee. If Lee would learn to step into more passes it would make a huge difference.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12991 posts
Posted on 10/2/11 at 9:59 am to
JL's first long pass incompletion was partly due to Rueben pulling up instead of running through to the ball.

Our route running leaves something to be desired.

JJ was terribly inaccurate last year and JL couldn't hit his arse with both hands yesterday..

The pass offense leaves much to be desired.
Posted by therocketscientist
too far away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2007
5010 posts
Posted on 10/2/11 at 10:17 am to
But then look at how RR caught the deep ball into double coverage that could have easily been an incomplete or an INT, and that accounted for a lot of the yardage total. You have to look at both ends of it folks
Posted by munchman
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
10371 posts
Posted on 10/2/11 at 10:19 am to
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All teams have at least a couple of dropped passes in each and every game.



O'really.....up on football aren't you.
Posted by Tiger Khan
Member since Oct 2009
2512 posts
Posted on 10/2/11 at 10:19 am to
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That means 4 or 5 passes were dropped.


That's a BIG deal.

But as in the past, I expect these guys to transcend those mistakes if the game is on the line.
Posted by ottothewise
Member since Sep 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 10/2/11 at 10:21 am to
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quit underthowing every wide open receiver.



Reuben did not run out a ball that was a TD pass. that was NOT underthrown.

also, JL threw too high, often. those were not underthrown either.

JL had a bad day. WR's also had a bad day. If they play like that against Florida and Bama and Auburn, those will be L's.

Posted by real
Dixieland
Member since Oct 2007
14027 posts
Posted on 10/2/11 at 10:21 am to
In their defense, the wind was really swirling down on the field, and that caused a few balls to sail or be knocked down.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70144 posts
Posted on 10/2/11 at 10:26 am to
Give receivers credit on the plays they did make and it helps balance it out.
Posted by Terry the Tiger
Cypress, Texas
Member since Jul 2009
3494 posts
Posted on 10/2/11 at 10:28 am to
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All teams have at least a couple of dropped passes in each and every game.


Most of the other teams are now passing 40-60 times per game. We are passing 25 times. Other teams can afford drops on 1st and 2nd downs, if they make the catch on 3rd down. LSU is usually passing on 3rd down. The catches must be made to move the chains. Drops are unacceptable with this style of offense. There isn't much room for error.
Posted by TDTGodfather
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
6204 posts
Posted on 10/2/11 at 10:29 am to
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as I said in another post...

You will play in the style you practice.

Penalties, Drops, Play Patterns, whatever....

If there is not discipline and accountability in practice, the problems will show up in the game.

There are many WRs that catch almost everything, no matter who throws it..others have the "dropssies", no matter who throws it.

It is usually not as much a matter of skill, but concentration, this comes from teaching and demands in practice


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but the bottom line is that there will be games in which we cannot afford these dropped passes. This was a luxury against Kentucky. We will need points against Florida, Bama and Oklahoma.
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without a doubt

did you just in essence blame all the drops on miles??

take shep, who thought he had his best week of practice ever, and turned in a mediocre performance.

the team practiced well last week, sometimes these things happen. i don't fault lee for those drops, wr's need to make catches. lee didn't have his best game, oh well, he had 4 very solid efforts in a row before this one. i think LSU played down to their competition and still won by 28.

if anything this game will be motivation to perform against UF
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70144 posts
Posted on 10/2/11 at 10:48 am to
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. There isn't much room for error.



If this is the case than why not complain that passes should be more accurate? It is a 2 way street isn't it?
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 10/2/11 at 11:01 am to
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there were a lot of "dropped passes".

Yes, some of the throws were poorly placed and it is not that unusual for them to not be caught


Agreed. The biggest problem I had with our WRs, but really mainly Randle, is the inability to get open. I kept watching the first half thinking "how can Kentucky put enough in the box to shut down our running game, but still cover our receivers like blankets?" Randle never got open in the first half. Even his big catch was between two defenders who had him covered but he just caught it anyway. Beckham and Shepard each did a much better job of getting open, especially Beckham.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95847 posts
Posted on 10/2/11 at 11:06 am to
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So quit making such a big deal about it. It is not that much out of the box and the stats for Jlee's completion percentage just does not matter since he has 8 TD's and 1 INT, and has us 5-0 and #1 in the country.



We're not going to stay #1 if the receivers keep dropping very catchable balls. I agree that Lee has some poorly placed passes that are regarded as drops. Just against Kentucky, I saw Shepard and Beckham move heaven and earth to try to make a play on balls that were either behind or way too tall. Lee has been lucky that a couple of floaters were not intercepted, as well.

My problem is the catching appear to be getting worse. I don't know what can be done. We have a bunch of atletic WRS that are not as surehanded as some we've had in the past. OBJ appears the best. DPeterson was pretty surehanded last year, but it looks like he's dropping some catchable passes, too.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 10/2/11 at 11:41 am to
There have been rumors that RS has been diagnosed with cataracts and they tried numerous corrective lenses to help but nothing. He will have surgery in the offseason.
Posted by ianfson1
Houston
Member since Aug 2009
1163 posts
Posted on 10/2/11 at 11:46 am to
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All teams have at least a couple of dropped passes in each and every game.


If you watch enough football, you will notice that a ton of teams run the spread with quite a few more attempts than LSU--so their "couple of passes dropped" are much less meaningful than those dropped by LSU's receivers. Given the attempts, LSU's receivers are dropping far too many for a championship team. I'm not moaning, just observing.

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