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re: 9-2 had Jefferson started all year.
Posted on 11/29/08 at 5:54 pm to lsutigerfan66
Posted on 11/29/08 at 5:54 pm to lsutigerfan66
sorry, but you are an idiot if you dont think having a stable QB in the game as opposed to trainwreck J Lee would have changed the mindset of the whole team, not just the offense. I think we would have been a totally different team. We had the talent this year, but why would the defense give a frick if the offense kept giving up ints and points themselves. im sorry, but thats what happened, and it is MILES' fault.
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Posted on 11/29/08 at 5:57 pm to sparkywade
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You dont see top 5 schools like USC redshirting these kids.
Mitch Mustain - RS
Aaron Corp - RS
Mark Sanchez - RS
Posted on 11/29/08 at 6:03 pm to OBUDan
You are very wrong. You are supposed to redshirt QBs if you are able to. Players that typically play as true freshmen are positions that require speed, WR, RB, or CB.
Posted on 11/29/08 at 6:08 pm to Chimlim
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Players that typically play as true freshmen are positions that require speed, WR, RB, or CB.
Also DLine.
All 4 are positions that you have lots of guys on the field at one time(5 WR/DB sets) or your rotate guys fairly often(ie Scott, Williams, and Murphy/Nevis, Woods, Alexander, Favorite)
QB and OLie are the places where Redshirts usually go
Posted on 11/29/08 at 6:16 pm to LSUtigahs28
We may have picked up one win somewhere, but i dont see us going 9-2 especially since we play 12 games in the reg. season 
. Just kidding i know it was an honest mistake but i dont think we do any bettyer than 8-4.
. Just kidding i know it was an honest mistake but i dont think we do any bettyer than 8-4.Posted on 11/29/08 at 6:21 pm to Bigtigah
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fricking retard. I didn't know Jefferson played defense too.
Stop degrading people on here you little kid. By the way, Nice signature quote! It seems people on the rant will believe everything you say. Let me try this again. "Please Herb Tyler had way more talent than Jamarcus Russell."
How naive are you?
Posted on 11/29/08 at 6:22 pm to sparkywade
So starting Jefferson would have helped defense...how?
More rantard logic
More rantard logic
Posted on 11/29/08 at 6:25 pm to topgun1676
SparkyWade, By the wade, I do believe we might have had a better record with JJ at QB. I'm not sure if it would be 9-2, but what many of these ranters are failing to realize is that it just isn't the defense. It's a team concept. You see, when your offense puts the defense in a stickler by consistently going 3 and out or throwing "pick 6's," you can have the best defense in the world and you aren't going to be successful. Defenses get worn down too. But, some of these games, I will give the ranters the benefit of the doubt, that the defense did'nt play great no matter what. Either way, 
Posted on 11/29/08 at 6:26 pm to Jason9782003
jjay6969-by holding the ball longer, by taking more advantage of the other teams mistakes, by putting pressure on the opposing offense to score. I admit, the defense has been awful, but JJ at the very least, playing more, would have changed the dynamics in several games...AL, GA, UM
Posted on 11/29/08 at 6:26 pm to sparkywade
Not another 10-2, we would be SEC West Champions if JJ started the beginning of the year thread.
Posted on 11/29/08 at 6:29 pm to neweuquol
I'm not saying we would have lost 2 games. What I am saying is that there were times when the defense looked pretty good and they did bail the offense out a lot of times. I don't know the statistics, but I'm willing to bet that the offense ran under Lee did go 3 and out many of the times and the defense was able to hold opponents at least to a field goal or no points at all in some of these games.
Posted on 11/29/08 at 6:29 pm to sparkywade
That's ridiculous. I thought he was only OK against an absolutely HORRIBLE Arky team...with a defense that suspended a number of key starters. Give me a break. he was 9-21 ...that's not exactly scintillating. Ok..he had 2 TDs...but he also had ALOT of awful passes to guys that were absolutely WIDE FREAKING OPEN. Our record is the same with JJ IMO.
Posted on 11/29/08 at 6:29 pm to sparkywade
i bet if we let JJ start all year we lose 6 games, maybe 7.
There is no way in hell we go to auburn and win without lee, especially since Jeff didn't know any of the playbook.
SC on the road wouldn't have been a gimme either. We had to come from behind as it is.
That said if the "option package" hatch was running to start the year had been given to JJ all year we probably beat bama and that could have really saved the whole season going into Ole Miss and Ark.
There is no way in hell we go to auburn and win without lee, especially since Jeff didn't know any of the playbook.
SC on the road wouldn't have been a gimme either. We had to come from behind as it is.
That said if the "option package" hatch was running to start the year had been given to JJ all year we probably beat bama and that could have really saved the whole season going into Ole Miss and Ark.
Posted on 11/29/08 at 6:31 pm to topgun1676
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What I am saying is that there were times when the defense looked pretty good and they did bail the offense out a lot of times. I don't know the statistics, but I'm willing to bet that the offense ran under Lee did go 3 and out many of the times and the defense was able to hold opponents at least to a field goal or no points at all in some of these games.
and it goes the other way just as much. When the Defense can't stop anything it hurts offensive morale.
QB play, Offensive playcalling, lack of leadership, and Defense were all culprits this year. Defense the biggest of them.
Posted on 11/29/08 at 6:34 pm to yungtigr
Great posts! I like many of your opinions because I can see if he didn't really know the playbook how ineffective he might be. I'm betting that he did know the playbook or he wasn't put in a better situation. I really do think that Miles waited to long to mold him myself. When you talk about horrible teams, let's not forget that some of these horrible teams Lee, himself, struggled against. He struggled against Tulane and Troy. Even though, he eventually brought this team back against Troy, he was a mess before that. The Tulane game was primarily won on the ground with the RB's. Like I said before, I respect everyone's opinion except people calling other fans retards. Remember, everyone might not agree with our opinions, but we all are on the same side when it comes to supporting our team.
Posted on 11/29/08 at 6:35 pm to sparkywade
Is Jefferson defensive coordinator too? 
Posted on 11/29/08 at 6:35 pm to sparkywade
no
Posted on 11/29/08 at 6:38 pm to Mudminnow
LSUtigahs28, I agree with your statement. I'm just tired of reading so many threads about how it is just the defense. It was a season team defeat, not one way or the other. Think of how the season might turn out if Perrilloux was the starter at QB. I bet we would have moved the ball a little more and the defense might not have been in tougher situations. He was rightfully kicked off the team, which should have been much sooner than later and we were dealt this hand with these young QB's. The season was lost as a team, not just the defense.
Posted on 11/29/08 at 6:46 pm to topgun1676
The game JJ started we lost to Arkansas, the worst team in the SEC with the worst defense. Yes, I know, it's hard to believe that we actually lost the game with how everyone is wanking it to JJ. I don't see how you can say we beat Auburn, South Carolina, or Troy with JJ at QB. He showed nothing in the game Saturday. His completion percentage was less than 50 percent. But he ran for 50 yards!!!! Yeah, on 19 carries, great average. 36 measly yards in the 2nd half. That is beyond pathetic. If you think JJ would have led this team to a 9-2 record you are D E L U S I O N A L.
Posted on 11/29/08 at 6:55 pm to Ninja Looter
Ninja Looter, though I respect your opinion, you also have to realize that it was only JJ's 2nd game. Lee had all season to develop as a quarterback. People always say that you improve from game one to game 2. Yes, Lee did lead us to a comeback victory over Auburn, but he was terrible all season long. Making the same stupid mistakes most QB's would not make over and over again. Throwing the ball away is part of the basics. Throwing a simple fade route, most highschool kids can throw and also staring down a receiver too long is not part of the basics, my friend. JJ did improve from game one to game 2. Granted it was against Arkansas, but Lee also struggled against both Tulane and Arkansas. The fact is we will never know because Les waited too long to use him, but I'm willing to bet he would have improved and at least won the Bama game.
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