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re: 4-team playoff will provide plenty of controversy
Posted on 6/22/12 at 3:15 pm to tigerdup07
Posted on 6/22/12 at 3:15 pm to tigerdup07
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this way EVERY game counts. for example, if lsu is playin mcneese in week 8, they better win so that they could keep that "at large" bid alive. you see what i mean?
You're way makes that hypothetical LSU-McNeese St game even more meaningless than a four team playoff. In a four team playoff if LSU loses that game they're really going to find it tough to get in. Under your scenario, LSU could lose every single non-conference game and get in as long as they win the SEC. Don't see how your way makes "every game count" more.
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Posted on 6/22/12 at 3:17 pm to bigpapamac
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Not exactly, especially if they use a committee and that seems to be the direction they're heading. And I feel like we've "accomplished shite" since there will be four teams getting to decide it on the field instead of two.
if this happens i guarantee you that there will be just as much controversy as this year:
1- LSU- 12-0 conference champs
2- usc- 12-0 conference champs
3- bama- 10-1
4- oklahoma- 11-1 conference champs
5- boise st.- 11-1 conference champs
6- fsu- 11-1 conference champs
get ready for it.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 3:33 pm to tigerdup07
Again, there's always going to be controversy so I really don't understand the point you're trying to make. Nobody doubts there will always be controversy. Two teams, four teams, sixteen teams, sixty-four teams or any other number. Just look at your plan for an example (which, respectfully, makes no sense, especially for your reasoning of 'making every game count'). It has four at-large spots, you don't think there would be serious controversy and complaing deciding which four teams that would be?
Posted on 6/22/12 at 3:36 pm to bigpapamac
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It has four at-large spots, you don't think there would be serious controversy and complaing deciding which four teams that would be?
the "at large" is just a chance to get in the tourney without having to win your conference. just like basketball/baseball.
so, if you lose to mcneese (losing any chance at an at large), then you will HAVE to win your conference. once again, same as baseball/basketball. this gives teams TWO WAYS to get in. that kills a shitload of "controversy".. i mean... a team can't bitch much when they missed out while having TWO chances as opposed to missing out because of someone's opinion alone.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 3:37 pm to bdnc
I honestly think we'll regret all of this in five to ten years and think about what used to be. ESPN will manipulate the shite out of it too.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 3:40 pm to tiger in the gump
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if there's 6 one loss teams, there is still many waya to rank them. nobody outside of the respective fans would care too much if the 5th rankd teams gets shafted
Do you ever watch ESPN or listen to the radio or go online to another sports site that isn't ESPN. ALL of em will be screaming how it isn't fair, especially those asshats screamin A. smith, and Skip Brainless
Posted on 6/22/12 at 3:43 pm to tigerdup07
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you will HAVE to win your conference. once again, same as baseball/basketball. this gives teams TWO WAYS to get in. that kills a shitload of "controversy".. i mean... a team can't bitch much when they missed out while having TWO chances as opposed to missing out because of someone's opinion alone.
You clearly don't pay attention on Selection Sunday in March, and they're complaining about teams 69,70,71, etc. In your scenario, we'd be talking about top ten teams and who should be in and out. There would still be all sorts of controversy.
This post was edited on 6/22/12 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 6/22/12 at 3:47 pm to bigpapamac
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You clearly don't pay attention on Selection Sunday in March.
how the hell you figure i don't?
basketball/baseball have two ways to make the ncaa "playoff"
football has one. and that ONE, right now, is a fricking opinion.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 3:50 pm to bigpapamac
i understand that the 69, 70, and 71 seeds are upset. but, they hardly complain like pete carroll, gundy, and mack brown did when they got fricked. it was a week long bitch fest.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 3:50 pm to tigerdup07
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that kills a shitload of "controversy".. i mean... a team can't bitch much when they missed out
I figured you don't because you said that talking about the basketball tournament.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 4:56 pm to bdnc
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Tennessee, who LSU defeated in 2001 SEC champ, would likely have made the final 4 but SB nation choose not to place them in. Doesn’t make sense, Tennessee was loaded.
killed their chances especially giving them 2 losses. Selection committee doesn't look at talent of football team rather they look at resume. Colorodo must have had the better resume that year.
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LSU may have made the final 4 in 2006, SB nation picks Louisville instead / i doubt Louisville had a better team since LSU arguably had one of its most talented teams.
again resume, LSU that year didn't even win the west, so we aren't the champions of a BCS conference. The committee likes teams who win their conference, so that crushes our chances
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In 2009, Florida gets the snub from SB nation choosing instead Cin. and TCU, that’s insane, Florida would eventually crush Cin. in the Sugar Bow. 51-24 / even with hindsight snubbing Florida is absurd
the committee would lose all credibility if they choose a once beaten team vs a unbeaten team both from conferences. Florida losing to bama hurt their chances, again not a conference champion causes them to loose out again.
I disagree that these are bad choices, in each of the situations a team had a better resume then the team who got left out.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 6:21 pm to bigpapamac
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You clearly don't pay attention on Selection Sunday in March, and they're complaining about teams 69,70,71, etc. In your scenario, we'd be talking about top ten teams and who should be in and out. There would still be all sorts of controversy.
controversy that lasts all of 3 minutes. How many times you see people getting heartburn over a #69 outside of homers
Posted on 6/22/12 at 6:31 pm to bdnc
If you don't make the top 4 you don't deserve to play for the MNC. Point blank. We are talking about the inclusion of dominant teams here. That separates the wheat from the chaff real easily.
Just look at it this way. Teams 1-4 could be considered legitimate #1 teams. If your team is not considered to be a legitimate #1 A, B, C or D, then you don't belong.
When it comes to clearly dominant teams, there are at most 3 in a year, but usually only really 1 or 2.
Just look at it this way. Teams 1-4 could be considered legitimate #1 teams. If your team is not considered to be a legitimate #1 A, B, C or D, then you don't belong.
When it comes to clearly dominant teams, there are at most 3 in a year, but usually only really 1 or 2.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 6:31 pm to tigerdup07
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if this happens i guarantee you that there will be just as much controversy as this year:
1- LSU- 12-0 conference champs
2- usc- 12-0 conference champs
3- bama- 10-1
4- oklahoma- 11-1 conference champs
5- boise st.- 11-1 conference champs
6- fsu- 11-1 conference champs
as long as the 2 undefeated teams are in, there's no way it'll match this year's controversy. It's like the big 2, then whoever of the 1 loss teams gets in is fine.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 8:31 pm to tiger in the gump
What if LSU is 12-0 at the end of season. Next bottom 4 teams are 11-1. Should the undefeated team get a bye. Sounds fair enough, but probably more controversy.
This post was edited on 6/22/12 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 6/22/12 at 9:51 pm to ewilliams000
That's why there needs to be at least 8 teams in the playoff. 12 might ensure no non-BCS conference winner with an undefeated or 1-loss record would be left out. Could someone provide examples of who would be in the top 16? I THINK that would be boderline too many. I think that probably 12 could set themselves apart as deserving a shot at the national championship.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 10:07 pm to bdnc
Just wait until Notre Dame returns to prominance. You guys will be crying tears as big as turds when a one loss LSU gets screwed. The so called elite will always have a built in advantage in the crappy system.
Conference champions only would eliminate all the bull shite. The four letter network can shove their "eye test" up their asses.
Conference champions only would eliminate all the bull shite. The four letter network can shove their "eye test" up their asses.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 10:16 pm to tigerdup07
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1- LSU- 12-0 conference champs
2- usc- 12-0 conference champs
3- bama- 10-1 (out because of losing conference championship, assuming it goes off resume not the eye test)
4- oklahoma- 11-1 conference champs
5- boise st.- 11-1 conference champs (out a 1 loss bosie will never make it. Make them 12-0 and they have a good argument)
6- fsu- 11-1 conference champs
so in this situation I would see this
1 LSU
2 USC
3 OU
4 FSU
assuming the rational behind the selection committee is resume not eye test.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 10:26 pm to catholictigerfan
Posted on 6/22/12 at 10:27 pm to catholictigerfan
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