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re: 4 loss season = the axe??
Posted on 6/29/10 at 9:29 pm to Stevo
Posted on 6/29/10 at 9:29 pm to Stevo
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So it has nothing to do with who they hired after winning a NC? It all has to do with how long they waited?
Yes, Miami waited until Coker had taken the program down to the point where they lost 40-3 in the Peach Bowl and then went 7-6 the following year. By that time, the damage was done and they had a major rebuilding project on their hands.
Tennessee waited until it had been a full 10 years since they had won the SEC title, and seven years since they had even sniffed at national championship contention. By that time, again, the damage was done and they had a major rebuilding project on their hands.
Coker and Fulmer both rode their national championship credentials into several years of underperformance and the schools, thinking as many of you do, let them do it because they had "earned" the right by winning the national championship. Result: both programs were run into the ground and both have major rebuilding to do.
LSU is now in the position to avoid, or repeat, the mistakes Miami and Tennessee made.
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Posted on 6/29/10 at 9:31 pm to Paulu
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At least Miami got 2 NCs out of Coker
They got 1. They almost got a 2nd.
Posted on 6/29/10 at 9:43 pm to Ignignot
Hell yes, mnc or bust
Posted on 6/30/10 at 9:50 am to Paulu
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May as well just stick with his mediocrity
51-15, 5 bowl games, 2 BCS bowl wins, 2 west titles, and a NC is mediocre in your book?
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We are NOT going to hire a big name coach.
Our last two hires gave given us 100 wins, 3 SEC titles, 10 bowl games, 4 BCS bowls, and 2 NC.
And you are unhappy with those hires?
I'm thinking some of us are just plain unhappy people or perhaps a spoiled child like person.
Posted on 6/30/10 at 11:04 am to Nuts4LSU
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Yes, Miami waited until Coker had taken the program down to the point where they lost 40-3 in the Peach Bowl and then went 7-6 the following year. By that time, the damage was done and they had a major rebuilding project on their hands.
Tennessee waited until it had been a full 10 years since they had won the SEC title, and seven years since they had even sniffed at national championship contention. By that time, again, the damage was done and they had a major rebuilding project on their hands.
Coker and Fulmer both rode their national championship credentials into several years of underperformance and the schools, thinking as many of you do, let them do it because they had "earned" the right by winning the national championship. Result: both programs were run into the ground and both have major rebuilding to do.
LSU is now in the position to avoid, or repeat, the mistakes Miami and Tennessee made.
Solid post. If LSU fails to challenge for the SEC championship for the 3rd year in a row, losing to Bama, Ole Miss, and Arky, then I think that Les may be shown the door. Something would need to be done to stop the bleeding, especially with one of Louisiana's best recruiting classes coming up. LSU needs to right the ship before Miles has a chance to sink it. If they wait until the damage is done, they will face a major uphill battle similar to what Tennessee and Miami are still going through years later.
Posted on 6/30/10 at 11:14 am to Nuts4LSU
quote:Like radar zeroed in, you got that one right. The first 5 games will tell the tale.
LSU is now in the position to avoid, or repeat, the mistakes Miami and Tennessee made.
Posted on 6/30/10 at 11:25 am to Lonnie4LSU
Problem is the guy responsible for putting the program in position for those wins is no coaching the current BCSNC team to the West.
Look at Miles record the last 2 years once it was 100% his coaches, players and system.
And ask yourself this question - how many SEC teams would NOT trade their current head coach for Miles?
Look at Miles record the last 2 years once it was 100% his coaches, players and system.
And ask yourself this question - how many SEC teams would NOT trade their current head coach for Miles?
Posted on 6/30/10 at 11:34 am to Ignignot
5-3 record in the SEC will NEVER get an LSU coach fired.
Les Miles 3-5 season in 2008 washes out all the goodwill from the 2007 national championship
Les Miles 3-5 season in 2008 washes out all the goodwill from the 2007 national championship
Posted on 6/30/10 at 12:01 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
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. Something would need to be done to stop the bleeding, especially with one of Louisiana's best recruiting classes coming up. LSU needs to right the ship before Miles has a chance to sink it. If they wait until the damage is done, they will face a major uphill battle similar to what Tennessee and Miami are still going through years later.
you Chicken Littles are pathetic. Saban turned LSU around in 2 years. Tenn and Miami have struggled because of the coaches they've hired, not because they waited too long. I swear, I really believe that some of you morons would prefer that we hire coaches on a week to week basis.
Posted on 6/30/10 at 12:05 pm to Ignignot
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4 loss season = the axe??
I would hope so, but given the conservative passivity of the LSU administration and the propensity of some LSU fans to celebrate mediocrity as if it were excellence, who knows.
Posted on 6/30/10 at 12:18 pm to Mayhawman
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Fire a coach that won the West?
LSU is not winning the West. 0% chance!
Posted on 6/30/10 at 12:21 pm to Paulu
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Problem is the guy responsible for putting the program in position for those wins is no coaching the current BCSNC team to the West.
So your saying Saban is responsible for the '07 NC?
Gawd damn i hate our fanbase.
Posted on 6/30/10 at 12:33 pm to Nuts4LSU
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Tennessee waited until it had been a full 10 years since they had won the SEC title, and seven years since they had even sniffed at national championship contention.
And the answer was KIFFEN??!!??
Gawd, you ppl are idiots
Posted on 6/30/10 at 12:46 pm to Ignignot
quote:If we can all just contribute $20 to the TAF and that goes into a fund to hire a new coach, we could assemble 100K fans at Tiger Stadium to collect it. Then we could be looking at an additional $2M to buy the sucker out.
but alas if he loses four I think the machine will be started.
Posted on 6/30/10 at 12:48 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
just got here......and another frickin thread on this.... :beatdeadhorse:
Posted on 6/30/10 at 12:50 pm to Paulu
quote:This. Even the Negatigers need to be schooled on this point. Miles is never going to have a losing season. He's milquetoast, middle of the road, average. He will manage to always win at least 7-8 games a year. It's going to take a BOD and an AD with major balls to fire his arse.
As long as he recruits well, Miles could be a babbling idiot and still win 7 to 9 games for the rest of his career. and never get fired.
Posted on 6/30/10 at 12:54 pm to Doc Fenton
quote:Good post. It's HOW you do it, not what the record shows. Last year the team and coached looked like the 'Keystone Cops do NCAA football' out there, and despite a 9-3 record took major heat for it.
But if UNC & WVU turn out to be overrated duds, LSU goes 4-4 in the SEC, and then wins the Independence Bowl, is Miles going to be fired after a 9-4 season like that? I would say probably so.
Posted on 6/30/10 at 1:05 pm to Paulu
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the guy responsible for putting the program in position for those wins is no coaching the current BCSNC team to the West.
Uh, what current BCSNC team to the West???
Posted on 6/30/10 at 1:54 pm to Paulu
amen, brother. and ask the fans of all other s.e.c. teams what they think of miles. most of them answer, "im glad he coaches lsu and continues to coach them". or, "im glad he's not our coach." "you guys have a lot of talent, but you got miles as a coach". some of them know their football. i think these comments speak for themselves.
Posted on 6/30/10 at 6:41 pm to Choctaw
Responsible for the facilites, the reputation and recruiting the vast majority of players that won that game for us.
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