4-2-5 Scheme or Personnel far fetched ?

4-2-5 is pretty much the nickel. We run that at least 50% of the time already.

Spur and bandit = SS and nickel.

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ballhawk: Mills

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I would love this system but I feel like you have to have a dominant DLine to keep the OLine off our undersized back 7 if you run it.. And I am not sure we got the talent for that up front

4-2-5 base defense would be ill-advised for LSU, especially with the power teams in the SEC. It requires a dominant interior to stop the run and plays towards a passing offense. We use our linebackers a lot in run defense.

I would prefer a base 4-3 and then just run a Nickle as necessary. Which we do a lot anyway.

Do you like getting run over by teams like MSU, Auburn, Bama, etc?

how did that work against Notre Dame?

Anyone who can run with power will give us a major issue.

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Ok... Should have just said we should run TCUs D, and not just the 4-2-5 And while we have the CB and nickel to run it, Mills would struggle as the lone safety. Would rather him in 1 of the nickel spots and put Adams as the lone safety. Plus, you sacrifice some beef up front which would come back to hurt us vs the run considering how we struggled agaianst it this year. You would be taking out a LB and have 2 DBs playing outside the tackle box. And it takes away from Debos strength, which is playing in space. . He would struggle, so would LL. Beckwith and Kwon could have done it though. And at the same time, I don't see the need for it considering we were 1 of the best in the nation agaisnt the pass and have a lot of talented DBs. Patterson started running this D because he was struggling on the back end vs talented offenses. We have the DBs to matchup with anyone in the nation. Our big problem is stopping the run inside. And we ran something similar to it in 2011 when we had Mo and Simon as the CBs with Ron Brooks and TM as the slot CBs. We just went man to man a lot because we had the players to do it.

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I'm glad to know someone actually knows something about defense. I see your point of LSU having so many talented DB's why not put them to use? A lot of them do get used when they have matured enough to play. The issue is facing a balanced offense. Against A&M or Ole Miss we might as well just play out of a based 4-2-5. Heavy passing offenses. But as far Arky, Auburn, Miss St, and Alabama who all run effectively, you really need that extra linebacker. DB matched up against a tight end or an offensive lineman is no bueno. We have recruited a ton of DBs in the past too. I don't know. It's preference. You could easily run a base 4-2-5 with a 4-3 package or even a 4-4, but with Arky's emergence and most of the east still running power offenses it would be wise to keep 4-3.

Our troubles don't like in schematics but in personnel. We've been decimated up front and pay the price. Before you start anywhere on a defense, that's where you need to start. A good defensive line can hide a bad secondary. Our issues come from not being able to pressure the QB with four down lineman. It doesn't have to be every play but it certainly helps ha.

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This is TCU's 'base' D. My guess would be they adapt it for the particular O they're facing. But it's hard for me to see Notre Dame running all over them.

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We ran a 4-2-5 the entire bowl game.

And they ran all over us.
TCU's defense has been sort of boom or bust. 61 points to Baylor, 33 to Oklahoma, 30 to WVU, 30 to Kansas and them som 3 points games and a shutout.

a base 4-2-5 is going to have match up issues. Team that can run take advantage of it.

If you can get away with it....