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3-4 Okie defense...
Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:54 pm
Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:54 pm
Les Miles repeated said that LSU will be using a 3-4 Okie defense. Can anyone tell me how this is different from a regular 3-4? I searched a couple of websites but I'm still not sure how is varies from a regular 3-4. I have heard of a 3-4 under but not a 3-4 okie.
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:59 pm to toughcrittercrumb
More of a 3-3-5 look than a 3-4. You can have they ability to walk a SS down to play a variation of a OLB role
Posted on 2/3/16 at 6:02 pm to toughcrittercrumb
At Wisky, Aranda ran a 3-4 1 gap scheme. Has experience running all types of schemes, so no idea what scheme he will run here.
But he had all that success at Wisky running the 3-4 1 gap scheme. And you would think that we hired him based off of the success he had there. So i expect to see the 1 gap scheme from our D.
But he had all that success at Wisky running the 3-4 1 gap scheme. And you would think that we hired him based off of the success he had there. So i expect to see the 1 gap scheme from our D.
Posted on 2/3/16 at 6:08 pm to KG5989
Yeah I did hear Les mention today running an Okie defense. It will help with the lack of depth at LB
Posted on 2/3/16 at 6:10 pm to toughcrittercrumb
Okie means : #33 is going to rape all year..... 
Posted on 2/3/16 at 6:10 pm to toughcrittercrumb
All I know is Adams, Beckwith and Key, et al are going to destroy opponents in 2016-2017 under Aranda.
Posted on 2/3/16 at 6:20 pm to drizztiger
Bower will flourish in this defense!!
Posted on 2/3/16 at 6:21 pm to KG5989
quote:
At Wisky, Aranda ran a 3-4 1 gap scheme. Has experience running all types of schemes, so no idea what scheme he will run here.
But he had all that success at Wisky running the 3-4 1 gap scheme. And you would think that we hired him based off of the success he had there. So i expect to see the 1 gap scheme from our D.
3-4 Okie is a 2-gap scheme though....
Posted on 2/3/16 at 6:27 pm to toughcrittercrumb
I'm not sure how that would work tbh. We're going to be extremely weak at LB next year even with Beckwith returning and the d-line/secondary should be a huge strength. More DBs would make sense but not less lineman, IMO.
Honestly, a 3-3-5 would probably work well against certain teams we play but I couldn't see us doing that exclusively. I think he's going to adjust it based on the strengths we have which should be DB as #1 and the DL as #2 maybe even #1 with LB being a huge weakness. Even if we kept Fowler today I still don't think the LBs would be weak with Beckwith back. Divinity will probably come in and get a starting job but it might be unrealistic to expect him to be a great starter.
Honestly, a 3-3-5 would probably work well against certain teams we play but I couldn't see us doing that exclusively. I think he's going to adjust it based on the strengths we have which should be DB as #1 and the DL as #2 maybe even #1 with LB being a huge weakness. Even if we kept Fowler today I still don't think the LBs would be weak with Beckwith back. Divinity will probably come in and get a starting job but it might be unrealistic to expect him to be a great starter.
This post was edited on 2/3/16 at 6:38 pm
Posted on 2/3/16 at 6:29 pm to Fus0623
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More of a 3-3-5 look than a 3-4. You can have they ability to walk a SS down to play a variation of a OLB role
I was thinking that we'd see more of that versus the spread? I know Aranda is very multiple in his defense. I'm anxious to see what he does.
Posted on 2/3/16 at 6:50 pm to deuce985
I'm thinking guys like Keys and Anthony would play a hybrid DE/OLB. IDK. Similar to a 3-4 under.
Posted on 2/3/16 at 6:50 pm to toughcrittercrumb
I can't wait until we line up with 6 players on LOS, 1 LB, 4 DBs and then 5 on the line stand up or back into coverage, 1 DL crashes into the OT, Key blitzes off that takedown, the rest of the OL are lost looking for someone to block.
Here, let me draw it up:
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Here, let me draw it up:
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 6:52 pm to drizztiger
quote:
All I know is Adams, Beckwith and Key, et al are going to destroy opponents in 2016-2017 under Aranda.
Aranda is doomed. Expectations are getting so high that he is doomed to fail.......
Only half heatedly serious
Posted on 2/3/16 at 6:56 pm to DaBike
quote:
Aranda is doomed. Expectations are getting so high that he is doomed to fail.......
quote:It's February. We'll be fine.
Only half heatedly serious
Posted on 2/3/16 at 6:58 pm to DBU
quote:
3-4 Okie is a 2 gap scheme though
Ok...
And Aranda has had huge success running a 3-4 1 gap scheme at Wisky. He's also had experience running other schemes as well, but he got on the coaching radar in a big way
running the 1 gap. And he has always had his own twist on things and turns it into a hybrid version of each D.
Not sure if this is just Miles' terminology or if we will run some 2 gap D or what. But I expect to see a lot of diff looks from the front 7 and they all will have Arandas hybrid twist on them. Not looking too much in the "okie" terminology from Miles.
This post was edited on 2/3/16 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 2/3/16 at 6:58 pm to drizztiger
quote:There's a HS coach successfully running this. Think I read about it on Chris Brown.
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 7:26 pm to Mayhawman
See what Pendergast was running at USC. 3-4 Okie type front that is sorta a throw back to a 5-2 with a twist or two..or five.
Info starts here:
Pendergast 5-2
That link will get you to another, which is what you are looking for.
I like how it compares the 5-2 to a 3-4 under and over and a 4-3 under.
Posted on 2/3/16 at 7:52 pm to Alltheway Tigers!
In the late 60's I remember it called an okie front, a 50 front or an odd front. Since that time there have been lots of names and variations. Basically it is a 5 man front. Usually a nose, a pair of tackles and ends. Today they may be called outside linebackers. Even the nose has been moved off the center to the right or left. Some teams have used a small quick nose to shoot gaps. Today the fad is to use 325lb plus nose to eat up two blockers and to control two gaps.
Posted on 2/3/16 at 8:02 pm to EastTiger
quote:
In the late 60's I remember it called an okie front, a 50 front or an odd front. Since that time there have been lots of names and variations. Basically it is a 5 man front. Usually a nose, a pair of tackles and ends. Today they may be called outside linebackers. Even the nose has been moved off the center to the right or left. Some teams have used a small quick nose to shoot gaps. Today the fad is to use 325lb plus nose to eat up two blockers and to control two gaps.
Yep. Crazy today. You even have sides of the ball doing different schemes. Example: Strong side to NT is playing 2-gap while weak side is playing 1-gap. Mix and match from there.
Posted on 2/3/16 at 10:00 pm to Alltheway Tigers!
quote:
See what Pendergast was running at USC. 3-4 Okie type front that is sorta a throw back to a 5-2 with a twist or two..or five.
Info starts here:
Pendergast 5-2
That link will get you to another, which is what you are looking for.
I like how it compares the 5-2 to a 3-4 under and over and a 4-3 under.
I think we have a winner.
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