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2017 Offense vs. 2016 Offense through the bye week
Posted on 10/23/17 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 10/23/17 at 12:02 pm
Through the bye week:
2017.....2016
27.4.....29.9 - Scoring per game
6.49.....7.01 - Yards per play
36.7%...43.2% - 3rd down conversion rate
5.07.....6.77 - Yards per rush attempt
9.26.....7.35 - Yards per pass attempt
3...........5 - Interceptions
3...........6 - Fumbles
152......130 - Passer Rating
FWIW, even if you isolate 2017 to our current 3-game winning streak, 2016 still had a higher scoring offense, gained more yards per play, had a higher average yards per rush, and had a higher 3rd down conversion rate.
Thoughts? Surprises?
2017.....2016
27.4.....29.9 - Scoring per game
6.49.....7.01 - Yards per play
36.7%...43.2% - 3rd down conversion rate
5.07.....6.77 - Yards per rush attempt
9.26.....7.35 - Yards per pass attempt
3...........5 - Interceptions
3...........6 - Fumbles
152......130 - Passer Rating
FWIW, even if you isolate 2017 to our current 3-game winning streak, 2016 still had a higher scoring offense, gained more yards per play, had a higher average yards per rush, and had a higher 3rd down conversion rate.
Thoughts? Surprises?
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Posted on 10/23/17 at 12:05 pm to slackster
Posted on 10/23/17 at 12:06 pm to slackster
My main thought would be that 2016 didn't see have the OL issues that 2017 faces.
Also our 1-2 punch was Fournette and Guice which is >>>> Guice and Williams.
Williams has been great this year but he in no way shape or form measures up to LF7.
Also our 1-2 punch was Fournette and Guice which is >>>> Guice and Williams.
Williams has been great this year but he in no way shape or form measures up to LF7.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 12:07 pm to slackster
we also implemented a brand new offense this summer/fall so I'd expect to see some growing pains. We also lost a few veteran starters from last years team. Those stats arent extraordinarily apart so Im not worried.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 12:08 pm to slackster
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36.7% - 3rd down conversion rate
gotta do better than that to make it a game.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 12:09 pm to slackster
Stats are like bikinis:
What they reveal is interesting...what they HIDE is vital!
This is a useless comparison as it gives ZERO insight at all
What they reveal is interesting...what they HIDE is vital!
This is a useless comparison as it gives ZERO insight at all
Posted on 10/23/17 at 12:09 pm to tke857
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we also implemented a brand new offense this summer/fall so I'd expect to see some growing pains. We also lost a few veteran starters from last years team. Those stats arent extraordinarily apart so Im not worried.
Yeah, there were extenuating circumstances in both years though.
In 2016 we lost our coach and OC 4 games into the season.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 12:12 pm to slackster
Offensive line has played a huge part.
The offense has been improving over the past few weeks and we've seen us game plan for our opponent as well as make ingame adjustments.
It's encouraging to say the least. I think the turnovers (or lack there of) this year has been outstanding.
The offense has been improving over the past few weeks and we've seen us game plan for our opponent as well as make ingame adjustments.
It's encouraging to say the least. I think the turnovers (or lack there of) this year has been outstanding.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 12:12 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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This is a useless comparison as it gives ZERO insight at all
Does it?
We're throwing the ball more effectively in 2017, and we're turning it over at a much lower clip. However, we're not scoring quite as much, and our overall offense is less efficient than the 2016 version through this point.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 12:12 pm to slackster
quote:
Thoughts?
Given our Oline youth/inexperience the only surprise for me is the differences are not greater...
Posted on 10/23/17 at 12:14 pm to slackster
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In 2016 we lost our coach and OC 4 games into the season
Yes. They were fired for a reason.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 12:15 pm to slackster
Last year after the coaching change the offensive stats were the highest it had been in 15 yrs...
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 10/23/17 at 12:17 pm to SoFresh
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In 2016 we lost our coach and OC 4 games into the season Yes. They were fired for a reason.
I know. And those 4 games are more than half of the 2016 numbers, which are still better than the 2017 overall numbers.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 12:19 pm to slackster
Didn’t we have Malachi Dupre, Travis Dural Leonard Fournette, Ethan Pocic, Josh Boutte and Maea Tuehma last year?
My thoughts are that your Oline was gutted, you lost 2 NFL wide receivers, the best RB to ever wear P&G and you’ve had a minimal drop in production.
Matt Canada is doing a great job with limited resources.
Think about this- your missing your starting LT, your starting 2 true freshman on the Oline and you managed to have 1 RB go for 270 yards, another have 100 yds rushing and 100 yards receiving and your QB threw for 200 yds. And most importantly- you scored 40.
All this was against an SECw team. What the fuch else do you want?
My thoughts are that your Oline was gutted, you lost 2 NFL wide receivers, the best RB to ever wear P&G and you’ve had a minimal drop in production.
Matt Canada is doing a great job with limited resources.
Think about this- your missing your starting LT, your starting 2 true freshman on the Oline and you managed to have 1 RB go for 270 yards, another have 100 yds rushing and 100 yards receiving and your QB threw for 200 yds. And most importantly- you scored 40.
All this was against an SECw team. What the fuch else do you want?
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 10/23/17 at 12:24 pm to slackster
The 3rd down conversion rate is probably the most troubling stat.
I think the most shocking comparison would be the 2016 defense vs 2017 defense. I would imagine there is a very sizeable difference.
I think the most shocking comparison would be the 2016 defense vs 2017 defense. I would imagine there is a very sizeable difference.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 12:26 pm to Solo Cam
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My thoughts are that your Oline was gutted, you lost 2 NFL wide receivers, the best RB to ever wear P&G and you’ve had a minimal drop in production.
You also had Brandon Harris, early Etling, Les Miles, and Cam Cameron, yet 2016 outperformed through this point.
quote:
Matt Canada is doing a great job with limited resources.
I think it's a wash at this point, although the trend is certainly better.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 12:53 pm to slackster
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I know. And those 4 games are more than half of the 2016 numbers, which are still better than the 2017 overall numbers.
Yes, I see your point. Ensminger did an excellent job against teams that were not stout defensively. Even against Florida I think we had a good game offensively in 2016.
I think it's too early to call MC a bust or a savior and 11/4 he has a chance to earn his money.
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