re: 2008 we lost 5 games but CLM and his staff made it through

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I'm about to start posting the moving goal post for you too, but I'm not sure you'd understand the joke.

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Do what you want... My post is spot on and you are so far up miles arse you can see out his nostrils.........

So we are going to settle on JJ, JL and RP. Solid. RP was an outlaw and was coached up by Fisher but I will you that. Jefferson- Was highly recruited out of HS. You really think Miles developed him to his potential? thats a fail. He had a complete meltdown on 1/9/12 not counting a number of other games JL through more touchdowns to bama than anyone in history. The Pick 6 king. Miles left him out there way too long in 2008. Glad we finally settled this. BTW this is horrible. You read McKay's article Sunday? Hits on this issue. the majority of tiger fans agree with me on this. Miles sucks at developing a QB.

We've had plenty of SEC quality QB's. Staff just kind of ruined them when they got here

I think instead of giving away a few games early to get a young guy going, Miles decided to play everything safe and try to win close hard faught games. Probably a lot to do with what Lee went through his RSFR year. What Miles did that year wasn't the wrong thing to do, Lee just didn't have the ability to overcome the weaknesses of that team. In comes JJ and the vanilla O we have come to know and hate. Had he given JJ the same freedoms, he might have even turned into a good QB and made an NFL team. If a QB knows his coach doesn't trust him, he typically doesn't trust himself. Bad shite happens. Both Lee and JJ were good enough to do very well in the SEC. Lee's first couple of games just kind of ruined Miles going forward.

Jefferson. Lee. Perrilloux learned enough to come in and win us an SEC championship.

Insert your various reason why none of those are good enough



JJ / JL / Perrilloux

you have helped me see the light !
now we have AJ/BH - going to get a drink
after work ! D and ST play - gotta love running the football

Nah...i think the auburn game scared the shyt out of les.

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In all honesty our defense gave us TONS of short fields, turnovers, and momentum that year. They set the offense up to be successful in the best way. Your point is correct by the numbers, but sometimes you have to dig into stats a little bit to find a kernel of truth.

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Then dig up the stats and show me where Les Miles is a shitty coach?

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still part of his stats dumbass. Still part of his development or lack off. So in your opinion? Lee is the best qb that miles developed? here are Lunchbox's QBS that Miles Developed 1. RP 2. JJ 3. JL BTW outside of RP and again that was more Fisher I wouldn't exactly brag about that hoss

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Every qb Miles has started spent more time under him than anywhere else. So yeah Jimbo is a good coach and it is why he is a Head Coach at a top program rt now. Even though they strugle to beat teams when they are the most talented team in their conference and in the country.

So now that we are giving Jimbo props, who the hell did saban develop at LSU? Not booty, not Rohan, not mauck, not flynn, not Jmarc. Marcus randall? Or was that Jimbo too?

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weak argument .. Saban brought in a coach to develop Qbs .. Who has miles brought in ?

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LSU fans love to give Saban passes for his time at LSU but ride Miles hard about everything. Its unreal.

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but ride Miles hard

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This is your job pumper....and youre good at it.

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So now that we are giving Jimbo props, who the hell did saban develop at LSU? Not booty, not Rohan, not mauck, not flynn, not Jmarc. Marcus randall? Or was that Jimbo too?

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All good points as to why that is a silly argument. The one argument that should be held against him, and it's a damning one, is that he refuses to adapt his offensive philosophy. (Especially when it comes to young QBs) Best attribute for an O to have is being able to keep a Defense guessing and off balance. Our Offense defined is as simplistic a style as they come and requries no planning by opposing Defenses. It doesn't cost us a Win more than it does, but it does nothing towards progressing our QB's and WR's.