re: 2007 Offense and Gary Crowton

Posted by alajones

Huntsvegas

Member since Oct 2005

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Posted on 5/9/13 at 9:56 am to Chimlim

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40 seconds to go, no timeouts, down by 2. About 20 yards away from FG range. Call a RB screen to the middle of the muddiest field ever. Cannot stop clock. Time runs out.

Yet still was invited back the next year.

Posted by bayouballs

Member since Apr 2012

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Posted on 5/9/13 at 9:58 am to alajones

If it would of worked, he'd of been a hero.

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Posted by alajones

Huntsvegas

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Posted on 5/9/13 at 9:59 am to bayouballs

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I'm aware of that. Just curious if it would of went downhill IF Perrilloux got to stay and if we recruited different.

There is no question this is the main reason we struggled so much in 08 and 09. Our starting QB was in Alabama.

Really our QB only cost us the Bama game in 08. Every other loss was on the defense.

Except Ole Miss. That unwatchable POS was on both.

Posted by That LSU Guy

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Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:02 am to cajunjj

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U'll forget Les is the captain of the ship. He gets payed big money for what he does. He is responsible for every thing happens during the season, but it is up to him to make the decisions. I like Les, but some on here are quick to blame the other coaches but should also look at Les in the end!

So lets not look at Crowton's career, and where he's at now.

This post was edited on 5/9/13 at 10:03 am

Posted by alajones

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Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:20 am to bayouballs

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If it would of worked, he'd of been a hero.

Explain to me how a WR middle screen on a muddy arse field with no TO's, 40 secs left to play and 20 yards away from FG range is ever the right call to make.

Posted by Mayhawman

Somewhere in the middle of SEC West

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Posted on 5/9/13 at 11:02 am to cajunjj

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He is responsible for every thing happens during the season, .........but should also look at Les in the end!

Yea, let's look at Les....... 4/5 LSU top scoring Os all time belong to Miles- all under different OCs.
Jimbo, Gary and Studthorpe.
Soon to be 5/5 in a couple years with Cam

Posted by Chimlim

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Member since Jul 2005

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Posted on 5/9/13 at 11:17 am to bayouballs

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If it would of worked, he'd of been a hero

A screen pass to the middle of the field was the absolute worst call in that situation. Ridley could not run out of bounds, JJ could not throw it away, and he was behind the line of scrimmage so he to pick up 10 yards to get a first.

Normally when plays don't work, I can usually see the thinking behind calling them. Not this one. This playcall made no sense whatsoever.

Posted by Tommy Patel

Member since Apr 2006

7558 posts

Posted on 5/9/13 at 11:18 am to bayouballs

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Yeah, I understand it takes certain types of players to make that style work, but it seems like if maybe we'd of recruited different, it would of been more consistent.

long story short Garys style was predictable and unimaginative after year 3 or 4 everywhere he has been. Not a bad Coach or system.

Posted by ztraveler

metairie, la

Member since Aug 2007

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Posted on 5/9/13 at 11:39 am to Tommy Patel

1999 Bears Team offensive ranking 26th Crowton OC 6-10
2000 Bears Team offensive ranking 28th Crowton OC 5-12
2001 Bears Team offensive ranking 11th with John Schoop as OC (not Crowton) 2001 the Bears went 13-3
2001 BYU - 618 Points scored in 14 games. Crowton's 1st year. 12-2
2002 BYU - 272 Points scored in 12 games. Crowton's 2nd year. 5-7
2003 BYU - 196 Points scored in 12 games. Crowton's 3rd year. 4-8
2004 BYU - 267 Points scored in 11 games. Crowton's 4th year. 5-6
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2005 BYU - 396 Points scored in 12 games. 1st year w/o Crowton. 6-6
2006 BYU - 478 Points scored in 13 games. 2nd year w/o Crowton. 11-2

2005 Oregon - 414 Points scored in 12 games. Crowton's 1st year. 10-2
2006 Oregon - 383 Points scored in 13 games. Crowton's 2nd year. 7-6
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2007 Oregon - 496 Points scored in 13 games. 1st year w/o Crowton. 9-4
2008 Oregon - 545 Points scored in 13 games. 2nd year w/o Crowton. 10-3

2007 LSU - 541 Points scored in 14 games. Crowton's 1st year. 12-2
2008 LSU - 402 Points scored in 13 games. Crowton's 2nd year. 8-5
2009 LSU - 323 Points scored in 13 games. Crowton's 3rd year. 9-4
2010 LSU - 313 points scored in 12 games Crowton’s 4th year. 11-2 (7 passing TDs - 1 a HB pass, 27 rushing TDs, 31 XPs, 26 FGM)
2011 Maryland-277 Points scored in 12 games..Crowton Fired 2-10
2012 CFL Winnipeg 376 pts (worst in CFL) 18 games..Crowton O.C. 6-11
It's not like Crowton has a history of sputtering offenses wherever he goes, or fanbase that are happier to see him leave rather than sadder to see him stick around.

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Posted by bayouballs

Member since Apr 2012

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Posted on 5/9/13 at 11:42 am to alajones

Never said it was the right play, but if it would of worked, it would of been "brilliant", because nobody would of expected it.

Posted by wadewilson

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Posted on 5/9/13 at 11:44 am to ztraveler

That should be telling.

Posted by bayouballs

Member since Apr 2012

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Posted on 5/9/13 at 11:50 am to ztraveler

I get your point. I do. I'm just curious how that system would of worked after the 2007 season if we could of re-stacked on offense. I'm not taking up for him. I just know the talent pool at LSU is much greater than a BYU or even an Oregon.

Posted by ztraveler

metairie, la

Member since Aug 2007

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Posted on 5/9/13 at 11:51 am to bayouballs

You are not looking at Gary Crowtn's all time record..... He goes down hill every place he goes