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re: 2-year, $8 million contract extension for Ed O is on agenda for BOS meeting
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:05 pm to thunderbird1100
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:05 pm to thunderbird1100
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Let's try and be a little less drama queen-esq here. We just had the best season we've had since 2011. We finished #6/#7 and won the Fiesta Bowl against a team that had own their previous 26 games. These are at minimum steps in the right direction, not sure how people can be miserable like you are over that
So if the rest of cfb wouldve sucked a little more, Miles would still be here and every season since 2009 wouldve been great.
Thankf god other teams in other conferences lost 3 games allowing lsu to finish 6th.
Thats what you think is great? We just have to hope the rest of cfb keeps losing 3 and 4 games a year.
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 2:07 pm
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:06 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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So if the rest of cfb wouldve sucked a little more, Miles would still be here and every season since 2009 wouldve been great.
Again, should we not recognize our 12-2 national title season cause it was a "worse" season overall for others?
Everything is relative
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:07 pm to thunderbird1100
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Let's try and be a little less drama queen-esq here. We just had the best season we've had since 2011.
That time period is comprised of seasons by the last coach, who was fired for such performance, and the current coach. Looking better compared to that history is not exactly a good barometer. Aside from that, there were arguably seasons in that time period under the last coach that were equal to or slightly better than this season.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:10 pm to thunderbird1100
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Again, should we not recognize our 12-2 national title season cause it was a "worse" season overall for others?
Throw the national title in the trash if you want. In 2007 we won something that isnt subjective and no amount of voting can award it to you nor take it away from you. Do you know what im talking about? Did we win the west in 2018 or did we finish 3rd in the west?
Did we win the sec in 2018 or finish 5th?
We won objective titles in 2007 that no amount of subjective voting can award you. West and sec titles.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:11 pm to thunderbird1100
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Again, should we not recognize our 12-2 national title season cause it was a "worse" season overall for others?
NGAF what our record is as long as we are winning hardware? got it?
put down the cheap arse thunderbird bottle.
log off you are drunk.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:12 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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We won objective titles in 2007 that no amount of subjective voting can award you. West and sec titles.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:13 pm to Damone
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That time period is comprised of seasons by the last coach, who was fired for such performance, and the current coach.
He was fired because for 5 straight years after 2011 he was outside the Top 10 (or headed there in 2016). Coach O has been here for 2 full seasons as full time HC and we've gotten at least slightly better. Which partly why he's getting the extension, he's not making Les money here, they gave him a 14% raise from $3.5M-$4M/yr. That's Mark Stoops money, not Mullen/Smart/Saban/Fisher money. I'm not sure people lose their minds over an extension a small raise that seems pretty worthy when you look at it on paper. To try and recruit with less than 3 years on your head coach's contract would not exactly give you a vote of confidence after a pretty good season.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:14 pm to Damone
Season A
Finished as the top ranked 3 loss team
Lost 3 games by a combined 13 points to 3 teams that finished in the top 10
10 win regular season
Season B
Finished as the top ranked 3 loss team
Lost to 3 games by a combined 40 points
9 win regular season
Finished as the top ranked 3 loss team
Lost 3 games by a combined 13 points to 3 teams that finished in the top 10
10 win regular season
Season B
Finished as the top ranked 3 loss team
Lost to 3 games by a combined 40 points
9 win regular season
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:14 pm to Fat Bastard
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NGAF what our record is as long as we are winning hardware? got it?
Again, you cant change the argument when it suits you. Either record = record and thats it or not. There's many other factors, LIKE titles that can change a season. IT also goes beyond JUST titles in how you can compare yourself.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:15 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:15 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Throw the national title in the trash if you want. In 2007 we won something that isnt subjective and no amount of voting can award it to you nor take it away from you. Do you know what im talking about? Did we win the west in 2018 or did we finish 3rd in the west?
Did we win the sec in 2018 or finish 5th?
We won objective titles in 2007 that no amount of subjective voting can award you. West and sec titles.
And once again, titles it not the only way to compare yourself to others. Everything is not a simple comparison here.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:15 pm to thunderbird1100
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He was fired because for 5 straight years after 2011 he was outside the Top 10 (or headed there in 2016)
Wow the goal posts just dont even exist anymore
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:16 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Season A
Finished as the top ranked 3 loss team
Lost 3 games by a combined 13 points to 3 teams that finished in the top 10
10 win regular season
Season B
Finished as the top ranked 3 loss team
Lost to 3 games by a combined 40 points
9 win regular season
Need more facts, where did we finish ranked either season. What bowl game did we play in either season, what was the opponent in those games and the outcome.
Again, this whole leaving pertinent facts out of the discussion thing...
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:19 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Wow the goal posts just dont even exist anymore
So why do you think he was fired? Do you think he still would have been fired if he finished that 2015 season more like, you know, #5/#6 than #15ish? I=t wasn't just about not winning titles any more, it was about taking us out of elite program territory altogether. It's one thing to just miss out, it's another to consistently take us out.
O will get fired too if he cant make a run or at least be a very consistent big winner. No different than Miles towards the end. Nobody is sitting here saying if O only continues to win 9-10 games he stick around. He's going to have to make a run eventually too.
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:22 pm to Fat Bastard
Thats why i tout sec titles. Coaches and players have 100% control over winning it. A p5 team can go undefeated and not even have the chance to play for the national title. Thats why im for 6 teams and winning your conf to make the playoffs. Its puts all the control on the coaches and players to make the playoffs. It removes the bullshite and subjective eye test.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:23 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Wow the goal posts just dont even exist anymore
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:28 pm to thunderbird1100
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So why do you think he was fired
Because losing to multiple inferior teams and an inability to beat bama for 5 straight games was rightly labeled as underachieving given the talent that was and still is at lsu.
Losing to multiple inferior teams every year was unacceptable.
No amount of subjective voting is why he was fired.
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was about taking us out of elite program territory altogeth
10 wins in 2010,2011,2012,2013,and 2015, what do you call O's tenure?
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will get fired too if he cant make a run or at least be a very consistent big winner. No different than Miles towards the end. Nobody is sitting here saying if O only continues to win 9-10 games he stick around. He's going to have to make a run eventually too.
Why are you saying this? As long as other programs continue to lose 3 ganes a year and we finish 3rd in the west but top 10 in cfb he should be fine, right?
We both agree 2018 was a decent season made better by winning a good bowl game against an inferior team.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:34 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Because losing to multiple inferior teams and an inability to beat bama for 5 straight games was rightly labeled as underachieving given the talent that was and still is at lsu.
Losing to multiple inferior teams every year was unacceptable.
No amount of subjective voting is why he was fired.
...all of which took us out of elite program territory and finishing outside the Top 10 for 5 straight seasons there.
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10 wins in 2010,2011,2012,2013,and 2015, what do you call O's tenure?
2 years in, not a decade?
I'm not sure what you're arguing here, because O after 2 full seasons hasn't won more games than Miles' last 5-6ish years we should can him already too knowing the issues he inherited as well? Again, at minimum, it was nice to see a season in which we finished inside the Top 10 for a change and win a big bowl game. These are things that haven't happened in a long time. Are we "back" - hell no. But again, baby steps are still steps in a better direction and I see no reason to lose minds over a small extension and raise after the season he had. Again, we're not paying him top dollar or anywhere close to it. He's going to have to win more to stick around and nobody is saying otherwise.
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Why are you saying this? As long as other programs continue to lose 3 ganes a year and we finish 3rd in the west but top 10 in cfb he should be fine, right?
Was never my argument, and you just made up something there. My whole point is the 2018 season ended up better than other seasons recently, and while by no means brings us "back" was a step in a good direction. Obviously, again, O will need to still improve us or eventually he's gone too.
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:38 pm to thunderbird1100
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Need more facts, where did we finish ranked either season. What bowl game did we play in either season, what was the opponent in those games and the outcome.
So you think a 3 loss #8 finish is better than a 2 loss #11 finish?
Posted on 3/20/19 at 3:06 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Thats why im for 6 teams and winning your conf to make the playoffs.
That makes sense.
Explain a 6 team playoff bracket again and who plays who. 
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