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10 walks, 3 runs. 3 walks, 8 runs.

Posted on 5/15/26 at 6:53 am
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
46895 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 6:53 am
Those thinking walks are the problem are not looking at how the game is unfolding pitch by pitch and inning by inning.

We don’t do the stupid fricking shift and Lachenmeyer has two outs and nobody on in the first and gets out of that inning with zero runs likely.

You can’t look at just numbers in baseball and determine where things are right or wrong. You have to watch the game pitch by pitch and have a feel for what’s going on in the ebb and flow of the game.

It’s what made Skip so incredibly awesome.
This post was edited on 5/15/26 at 6:55 am
Posted by JakeRStephenes
Member since Feb 2012
3142 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 6:57 am to
BS. The dude ambushed the 1st pitch of the game and smoked it into center field. Try again.

Here's another nugget - this isn't the first year CJJ has employed the shift. So last year's success was an outlier?
This post was edited on 5/15/26 at 7:01 am
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
46895 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 7:07 am to
quote:

Here's another nugget - this isn't the first year CJJ has employed the shift. So last year's success was an outlier?


I don’t remember being excited about the shift last year either.

Like last year was probably 50-50, number of plays made where the shift made the difference versus number of plays not made where the shift was the cause.

This year, the feel is more that the shift has caused more missed plays than made plays. And I can think of three maybe four specific instances where the shift cost us double plays, which is quadruple bad.
This post was edited on 5/15/26 at 7:08 am
Posted by GeauxTime9
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2010
7033 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 7:07 am to
quote:

Here's another nugget - this isn't the first year CJJ has employed the shift. So last year's success was an outlier?


I’d love to know the stat of how often he’s applied the shift in certain situations compared to last year.

It seems like Jay has tried to do more from the dugout this year compared to others. I have a feeling that’s due to lack of confidence in his defense and pitching staff.
Posted by GBPackTigers
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2009
1643 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 7:13 am to
The shift only works with better percentages when you have a pitcher who has elite control. We do not have a pitcher with that control on the staff that you can count on to throw 75% of their pitches to the spot that is called.

Skenes and Anderson had that control. These are the only pitchers over the last few years that you could gain outs by using the shift.

Eyanson had good numbers but his “elite stuff” got hitters out, not “elite control”. And I think the world of Eyanson. He will be in the bigs for a long career.

Point is, Jay is trying to overcomplicate the game. He’s a good coach but I wish he wouldn’t get so analytical in the X’s and O’s of in-game coaching.
Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
3851 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 9:24 am to
Go back and see how many times the shift works or doesn't work and let us know the percentages. It's easy to remember when it doesn't work.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
46895 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 12:59 pm to
It's easy to remember when it works too... I'm certain the analytics dudes have that info.

My gut tells me it's hurt a lot more than helped this year... especially with things like not a true 2B guy.. so you have Ruckert or Darder working the right side when they have always (in Ruckerts case) and mostly (in Dardar's case) worked the left side... then you put them in a shift and try to make double plays with funky angles or long trips to 2B.

And then there's the plays where you're in the shite but it would have been a routine play anyway.. such as the one the other day where Ruckert was 30 feet in the outfield on a ball hit right to him that he would have scooped right to him if he had been on the dirt... so how do you 'score' that play?
Posted by Tschool
Zachary
Member since Jan 2004
143 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 5:47 pm to
Shift only works if pitchers hit their spots. Play a guy to pull side and you throw the ball away and the result is not good.
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