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Would you be happy with this Oline class (22) from O and Davis?

Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:18 pm
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:18 pm
Campbell
Bordelon
Jones
Fitzgerald

That's what 24/7 is saying as far as what they think Oline will end up.

I would be highly disappointed in that 2 of them were already committed so that means Davis closes with Jones (who has been all LSU) and Fitz.

That doesn't scream elite recruiter to me and O would have back to back mediocre Oline classes.

OSU, Bama, UGA, Clemson even OU (sometime) have been able to bring in multiple 5*s as and do it consistently ever single cycle. Not to mention they kill out of state recruiting on the line.

Why do we fail so hard at getting multiple 5* Olinemen? Even if they aren't 5*s why do we end up with so many 3* projects? No way Bordelon should have a spot in this class. If you an elite line
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
53554 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:26 pm to
It’s a brand new staff and results on the field have to set the example. It’s just the position that they’re in. No one wants to hear it but the other SEC coaches are negatively recruiting O and that he won’t be at LSU in two years or less.
Posted by WVtiger
West Virginia
Member since Dec 2019
420 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:28 pm to
I would be disappointed with that finish. We need to keep Campbell, land Jones, and add one of the following:
Kelvin Banks
Kam Dewberry
Julian Armella
Malik Agbo
Then we can fill in with Bo or someone like that if we only land one of the four above. That would be a great but reasonable get for us
Posted by Tuliie
Member since Aug 2019
224 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:34 pm to
U really think coach O will be gone
Posted by ArabianTiger7
St. Bernard
Member since Feb 2019
528 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:36 pm to
Crown didnt say that, he said other SEC coaches are negative recruiting with that BS.
Posted by daydranking
nunya
Member since Sep 2019
482 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:07 pm to
Bordelon is legacy and his family donates a lot of money to TAF so he'll be a take. We should just be relieved that he's a middling 3*
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
53554 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:12 pm to
I’m not an insider but every other school continues to recruit against LSU with the Title 9 and “cover ups”. I imagine if I had a kid with parents I would be ears open. Winning cures all is how it plays. Other schools haven continuity with their staffs as LSU chooses to “hire the best”.
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
11468 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:18 pm to
Lack of elite in state OL hurt us more than anything. If you look at our lines over the years, most of them are from other states. We need to steadily hit Texas hard. That’s where we seem to have the most success and proximity is in our favor. And no, that class you listed will not suffice if we plan on winning championships.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
53554 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:21 pm to
100!! The state of Louisiana produces superior skill talent. In the SEC you win between the lines. Have to hope Davis can recruit these kids.
Posted by GeuaxTigers504
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2011
669 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:22 pm to
Shea also included Armella in this class, I’d be very happy to have him and Campbell in this class
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
53554 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:25 pm to
It appears that they’re trying their best to recruit him it sounds like like Banks is gone and they’re all in on him. The season has to play out of course but as of today.
Posted by LSU FSU Grad
Member since Jul 2014
2900 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:58 pm to
I realize the OP is all about complaining about anything and everything to do with LSU, but how does an OL class with at least 1 5* and 1 4* equate to mediocre?

Also, how are so many of these elite recruiting teams signing so many 5* OLs? I mean, there are 35 5* players this year. Of those, FIVE are OLs. LSU has 1 at this point. Are those other 4 signing at multiple schools so these teams can all sign the multiple 5s you claim?

Fact is, there are usually 5 or less 5* OLs each class. They aren't very common.

As for your 247 predicted class, where do you see that? Or is it, like usual, what you WANT to see?

Campbell and Bordelon are committed. Jones soon will be. Because he's been a lean and O and the new coach closed the deal, they get no credit? That's piss poor logic right there!

As for Fitzgerald, I don't see him projected to LSU on 247. If anyone, I see Agbo "projected" to LSU, but then that doesn't fit your narrative.

A class of Campbell, Jones, Bordelon, and any 1 of Banks (less likely), Dewberry (decent chance), or Agbo (best chance of the 3) is far from mediocre. As much as the OP wants it to be.

As for someone calling Bordelon a middling 3*, the guy has an 87.67 grade. That is NOT a middling 3*! A 4* is anything above 89.00. That's less than 1.35 points away from a 4*. Agbo is a 90.35, But again, people's narrative. You gotta claim what best fits for you, NOT the actual facts.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
31260 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:01 pm to
I still think lsu can get banks.

Is armella being receptive to lsu?
Posted by LSU FSU Grad
Member since Jul 2014
2900 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:04 pm to
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Is armella being receptive to lsu?


FSU seems pretty confident he goes with them. If so, he better go quick because they are filling spots fast. Good thing too because the OL has been a floodgate for years!
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:26 pm to
quote:

Lack of elite in state OL hurt us more than anything. If you look at our lines over the years, most of them are from other states. We need to steadily hit Texas hard. That’s where we seem to have the most success and proximity is in our favor. And no, that class you listed will not suffice if we plan on winning championships.


Oklahoma is not producing type flight lineman..

Neither is Alabama and neither is South Carolina.

That's a terrible excuse.
Posted by fOrEvErLsU1987
Member since May 2019
1126 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:30 pm to
quote:

No one wants to hear it but the other SEC coaches are negatively recruiting O and that he won’t be at LSU in two years or less.


I agree SEC coaches are making that negative recruiting pitch but does anyone here think it’s making that much of a difference?

I mean right now we’re going on our 4th straight top 5 recruiting class and actually have a 5 star Olinemen already in the boat. Naturally it’s bc he’s an instate kid but that’s what I think the main problem has been in that LA just doesn’t produce OL at as high of a clip as other positions

Point is, the negative recruiting isn’t working.

2019 (5th)
2020 (4th)
2021 (3rd)
2022? (1st - 3rd)?
Posted by LSU FSU Grad
Member since Jul 2014
2900 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:40 pm to
In this cycle, OK has 1 4* or above OL. He's going to Okie. SC has 1. He's going to Clemson. Al has 2. One to Bama and 1 to FSU. LA has 2, both going to LSU.

Your argument is terrible. Based on nothing but emotion and agenda.

Oh, also for this cycle...there are 49 OLs rated a 4* or higher. 5 5*s and 44 4*s.

How are these elite OL recruiting teams signing all of them again? None are going to other schools? LSU very likely will get at least 3 of the 49, if not 4. #mediocre
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:52 pm to
quote:

In this cycle, OK has 1 4* or above OL. He's going to Okie. SC has 1. He's going to Clemson. Al has 2. One to Bama and 1 to FSU. LA has 2, both going to LSU.



You proved my point for me idiot. The poster I was replying f to was using lousiana specifically as an excuse for us not being a fertile recruiting ground for Olinemen in response to my post about OU, OSU, Alabama, Clemson getting consistent out of state olineman.

That was my point those schools get consistent great out of state lineman each class consistently. We do not. Last years class had Dellinger and Kimo - Delli will be good but 2 fricking olinman?

We been inconsistently bad at recruiting the position. Fact.

LSU will not get 3 of the 49 (or 4) with Bordelon and West signing idiot. They are both low ranked 3*s.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
284897 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:52 pm to
Campbell & Jones are early starters. Campbell looks like the elusive LT.

Fitzgerald looks good too, potential 3rd year starter


So not terrible but not exactly elite either
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 9:53 pm
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

Campbell & Jones are early starters. Campbell looks like the elusive LT.

Fitzgerald looks good too, potential 3rd year starter


So not terrible but not exactly elite either



Not disagreeing with you at all on that but last years class we needed an amazing class this year.
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