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Would Sumlin to USC hurt or help our '14 class?
Posted on 10/2/13 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 10/2/13 at 12:25 pm
Part of me thinks we'd gain from some of the possible Aggie leans, but the other part thinks the splash he'd make going to USC could hurt us(and others) with some big name players. I realize USC can only sign 19 this year.
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Posted on 10/2/13 at 12:27 pm to PeaRidgeWatash
this would hurt aTm therefore help us in recruiting.
Posted on 10/2/13 at 12:35 pm to PeaRidgeWatash
If he leaves for USC it will be after aTms bowl game giving him very little time to make a splash in recruiting.
Would definitely help but Aggies aren't getting anyone we want from LA anyway
Would definitely help but Aggies aren't getting anyone we want from LA anyway
Posted on 10/2/13 at 12:36 pm to PeaRidgeWatash
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but the other part thinks the splash he'd make going to USC could hurt us(and others) with some big name players.
I seriously doubt it. Who are you talking about with this one? The only ones I could think of is Speedy, Willis, and Brown. They would not go that far away from home. I'm sure all 3 will be at LSU regardless of what Sumlin does.
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this would hurt aTm therefore help us in recruiting.
This
Posted on 10/2/13 at 12:37 pm to PeaRidgeWatash
Sumlin to USC is pie in the sky thinking. I'm sure they want Nick Saban, too.
Posted on 10/2/13 at 12:40 pm to TheRookbird
We need to help ourselves with recruiting.
Posted on 10/2/13 at 1:15 pm to PeaRidgeWatash
USC has enough talent within 25 miles of campus to stock a program. They'll occasionally try to poach someone from Louisiana (McKnight) but you wouldn't see Sumlin around here much. He wouldn't need to.
Posted on 10/2/13 at 1:22 pm to TheRookbird
We generate significantly more revenue than usc and the gap will be much larger after 2015 (new stadium and suites). Usc is not going to land sumlin or strong or anybody that already makes over 3 million.
Posted on 10/2/13 at 1:28 pm to Jim Rockford
How about this?
Sumlin to USC
Saban to UT
Dabo to UA
ATM and Clemson open for...
Regardless of what happens with the above, the coaching carousel will be VERY interesting after this season.
Sumlin to USC
Saban to UT
Dabo to UA
ATM and Clemson open for...
Regardless of what happens with the above, the coaching carousel will be VERY interesting after this season.
Posted on 10/2/13 at 1:29 pm to TheRookbird
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Sumlin to USC is pie in the sky thinking
how so?
Posted on 10/2/13 at 1:35 pm to Jim Rockford
quote:Dude.....you can't be serious!!
USC has enough talent within 25 miles of campus to stock a program.
Posted on 10/2/13 at 1:37 pm to PeaRidgeWatash
I wouldn't mind taking Myles Garret from them. 
Posted on 10/2/13 at 1:47 pm to Memphis
quote:quote:
Sumlin to USC is pie in the sky thinking
how so?
That's what I'm screaming. USC is still one of the best jobs in the country.
Posted on 10/2/13 at 1:53 pm to Suntiger
quote:Indeed. The history and tradition to go along with its location, that school practically recruits for itself.
USC is still one of the best jobs in the country.
Posted on 10/2/13 at 1:57 pm to Suntiger
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That's what I'm screaming. USC is still one of the best jobs in the country.
better than A&M
Posted on 10/2/13 at 1:59 pm to Ironhead985
Sumlin to USC would not hurt or help our 14' class unless a few A&M recruits jump ship because he leaves and we become frontrunners.
15' would help us in that A&M should be less of a factor, as someone posted above, USC and LSU every now and then are in a recruiting "battle" but it is rare and for one major guy.
15' would help us in that A&M should be less of a factor, as someone posted above, USC and LSU every now and then are in a recruiting "battle" but it is rare and for one major guy.
Posted on 10/2/13 at 2:08 pm to rzd30
We'd still be battling bama for recruits. so it wouldnt make a differnce IMO
Posted on 10/2/13 at 2:12 pm to Memphis
I see sumlin to the nfl being a much more realistic possibility.
He may want to strike while the iron is hot.
Sincerely,
Kirk ferentz
He may want to strike while the iron is hot.
Sincerely,
Kirk ferentz
Posted on 10/2/13 at 2:14 pm to Memphis
USC is still on probation and will have 55 scholarships next season.
Sumlin has built A&M into a winner overnight, they have tons of money (more than USC) and they are building a half a billion dollar stadium.
Here are the records for the coaches at USC in the last 30 years:
Ted Tollner (1983-1986) 26-20-1
Larry Smith (1987-1992) 44-25-3
John Robinson (1993-1997) 37-21-2
Paul Hackett (1998-2000) 20-17
Pete Carroll (2001-2009) 83-19
Lane Kiffin (2010-2012) 25-13
Pete Carroll's time there was the exception, not the rule over the past 30 years.
Cost of living in LA is much higher than College Station, TX. Texas has no state income tax, while California has the 2nd highest. Property values in California are significantly higher. Sumlin would probably have to get paid an extra 30+% on top of his salary just to sustain his standard of living in LA.
As much as it would be good for our recruiting for Sumlin to leave, I think he will only do so for the NFL.. and even that is a question mark to me.
Sumlin has built A&M into a winner overnight, they have tons of money (more than USC) and they are building a half a billion dollar stadium.
Here are the records for the coaches at USC in the last 30 years:
Ted Tollner (1983-1986) 26-20-1
Larry Smith (1987-1992) 44-25-3
John Robinson (1993-1997) 37-21-2
Paul Hackett (1998-2000) 20-17
Pete Carroll (2001-2009) 83-19
Lane Kiffin (2010-2012) 25-13
Pete Carroll's time there was the exception, not the rule over the past 30 years.
Cost of living in LA is much higher than College Station, TX. Texas has no state income tax, while California has the 2nd highest. Property values in California are significantly higher. Sumlin would probably have to get paid an extra 30+% on top of his salary just to sustain his standard of living in LA.
As much as it would be good for our recruiting for Sumlin to leave, I think he will only do so for the NFL.. and even that is a question mark to me.
Posted on 10/2/13 at 2:22 pm to TheRookbird
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USC is still on probation and will have 55 scholarships next season.
Sumlin has built A&M into a winner overnight, they have tons of money (more than USC) and they are building a half a billion dollar stadium.
Here are the records for the coaches at USC in the last 30 years:
Ted Tollner (1983-1986) 26-20-1
Larry Smith (1987-1992) 44-25-3
John Robinson (1993-1997) 37-21-2
Paul Hackett (1998-2000) 20-17
Pete Carroll (2001-2009) 83-19
Lane Kiffin (2010-2012) 25-13
Pete Carroll's time there was the exception, not the rule over the past 30 years.
Cost of living in LA is much higher than College Station, TX. Texas has no state income tax, while California has the 2nd highest. Property values in California are significantly higher. Sumlin would probably have to get paid an extra 30+% on top of his salary just to sustain his standard of living in LA.
As much as it would be good for our recruiting for Sumlin to leave, I think he will only do so for the NFL.. and even that is a question mark to me.
quote:
He may want to strike while the iron is hot.
Sincerely,
Kirk ferentz
As much as aTm hates to admit it, they will be the second school in the state behind Texas. Always! They lucked up with Manzel, but I'm not sure they can sustain that type of recruiting and winning. Then where is he left? He's basically in the South Carolina of the SEC West.
In USC he is at the top dog school of California at a program that can truly recruit nationally. And Hayden will stick with him because he will be his guy. Kiffin was hired before he got there.
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