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trends with top high school QBs
Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:06 pm
Interesting trend:
2020 #1 Bryce (back up when they won a natty - never won one as starter) #2 DJ U (multiple transfers - bust) #3 CJ Stroud (no nattys)
2021 #1 Ewers, #2 Caleb Williams, #3 Sam Huard (no nattys - all transferred before success - huard has been hurt)
2022 #1 Drew Allar (key starter in playoff but good qb or cupcake schedule?), #2Cade klubinekc and #3 Connor Wegmann, (both have been benched mid game for poor performances and starting role highly questioned - wegmann to portal)
2023 #1 arch (back up to portal transfer), #2 Nico I (key starter - in playoff), #3 Dante Moore (already transferred) #4 Jackson Arnold (has been benched for poor performance - hit the portal) and #5 Malachi Nelson (back up to portal transfer)
-for big programs needing a qb seems like going for proven commodities in portal or developing your 4 star is much safer bet than paying some more than an nfl rookie contract whose never played a down of college football, - I guess if you have endless cash it doesn't matter - but the 5star signee is no guaranteed natty
2020 #1 Bryce (back up when they won a natty - never won one as starter) #2 DJ U (multiple transfers - bust) #3 CJ Stroud (no nattys)
2021 #1 Ewers, #2 Caleb Williams, #3 Sam Huard (no nattys - all transferred before success - huard has been hurt)
2022 #1 Drew Allar (key starter in playoff but good qb or cupcake schedule?), #2Cade klubinekc and #3 Connor Wegmann, (both have been benched mid game for poor performances and starting role highly questioned - wegmann to portal)
2023 #1 arch (back up to portal transfer), #2 Nico I (key starter - in playoff), #3 Dante Moore (already transferred) #4 Jackson Arnold (has been benched for poor performance - hit the portal) and #5 Malachi Nelson (back up to portal transfer)
-for big programs needing a qb seems like going for proven commodities in portal or developing your 4 star is much safer bet than paying some more than an nfl rookie contract whose never played a down of college football, - I guess if you have endless cash it doesn't matter - but the 5star signee is no guaranteed natty
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 3:59 pm
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Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:15 pm to ThrowiTToTerrance
The best college QBs this year
Cam Ward - transfer, 0 star out of high school, only 1 offer to FCS Incarnate Word
Shedeur Sanders - transfer, 3 star, #37 QB in his class
Kyle McCord - transfer, 4 star #6 QB in his class
Jaxson Dart - transfer, 4 star, #10 QB in his class
Dillon Gabriel - transfer, 3 star, #27 QB in his class
Cam Ward - transfer, 0 star out of high school, only 1 offer to FCS Incarnate Word
Shedeur Sanders - transfer, 3 star, #37 QB in his class
Kyle McCord - transfer, 4 star #6 QB in his class
Jaxson Dart - transfer, 4 star, #10 QB in his class
Dillon Gabriel - transfer, 3 star, #27 QB in his class
Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:18 pm to ThrowiTToTerrance
If you are considering Bryce Young and CJ Stroud as disappointments because they didn’t win titles as a starter, your standards are way too high.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:20 pm to TheWalrus
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If you are considering Bryce Young and CJ Stroud as disappointments because they didn’t win titles as a starter, your standards are way too high.
or Caleb Williams. That's 2 #1 overall picks and a #2 overall pick and 2 Heisman trophies
Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:57 pm to ThrowiTToTerrance
Update Arnold is in the portal
Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:58 pm to lsufball19
Correct Caleb Williams didn’t stick with his original team tho was the point there
Posted on 12/4/24 at 4:00 pm to ThrowiTToTerrance
Looks like the recruiting services could be doing a better job of evaluating QB talent.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 4:01 pm to TheWalrus
That’s fair they definitely put their programs in position to win one - just saying paying a #1 or #2 or even top 5 qb BIG$$$ doesn’t guarantee a natty - in this new era I would say to pay someone more money than an nfl rookie contract means I am looking for a guaranteed return - but by historic data - nothing is guaranteed and these guys really are over priced to a degree
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 12/4/24 at 4:11 pm to ThrowiTToTerrance
It's becoming pretty obvious that there is more value in portal quarterbacks, then there is in a high school recruit.
Nuss is a very rare QB that was willing to wait 3 years for an opportunity.
Nuss is a very rare QB that was willing to wait 3 years for an opportunity.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 5:22 pm to jrodLSUke
Fully agree - that just makes no sense and glad the staff went another direction as painful as it was timing wise
Posted on 12/4/24 at 5:44 pm to jrodLSUke
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Nuss is a very rare QB that was willing to wait 3 years for an opportunity.
Which could tell you that he had no value to other teams
Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:55 pm to jrodLSUke
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It's becoming pretty obvious that there is more value in portal quarterbacks, then there is in a high school recruit.
I wouldn't say there's more value, the rate at which blue chip QBs (4 and 5 star players) transfer is just at like 80% now. QBs don't wait around like Nuss for their opportunity to play. That doesn't, in and of itself, mean transfer QBs are more valuable. It just means that keeping a good QB on your roster who doesn't play early is difficult.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:56 pm to chalmetteowl
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Which could tell you that he had no value to other teams
Nuss very easily could have transferred had he wanted to.
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