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re: Top analysts now predicting Malik Newman to LSU ... UPDATE: Last 6 CBs for LSU

Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:32 am to
Posted by LSU-DUDE
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:32 am to
GP MINS PPG RPG APG SPG BPG
Andrew Harrison 31 25.4 8.8 2.2 3.8 1.0 0.2
TPG FG% FT% 3P%
1.8 .366 .787 .365

Tyler Ulis 29 22.9 5.4 1.7 3.6 0.8 0.1 1.0 .414 .781 .419

So just because Ulis FG% and 3point% is better than Andrew you mean to tell m e he is better? Are you serious Sir? Look at the stats, Andrew is better clearly.
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You'd rather the better player play because he's shorter? Fact is Ulis is better than Andrew, it isn't close. I don't care if Andrew was a 6'9 PG, he's not very good at all. Ulis does EVERYTHING better offensively than Andrew.
Lol I guess the numbers show Ulis is clearly better and its not even close in your words. I guess the numbers are lying, the same way he scored 2 points 3 assists and 1 rebound, as for Andrew vs us he had 13pts 4ast 3 rbds.
Posted by lsufan1215
Member since May 2011
1044 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 10:05 am to
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Ulis not only has a better Ast:TO ratio, he shoots astronomically better than Andrew does...once again, it's not close.

Ulis - 41.4% FG/41.9% 3 pt
Andrew - 36.6% FG/36.5% 3 pt



First of all, Andrew has taken about 75 more shots than Ulis, so there's a much smaller sample size for Ulis.

Secondly, I said (and I'm fairly certain repeated) that they've been about equal in the last couple months, not all season. Ulis was better early, but Andrew has come on strong of late. Again, you clearly haven't been paying attention.
This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 10:06 am
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 10:32 am to
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he shoots astronomically better than Andrew does...once again, it's not close.

Ulis - 41.4% FG/41.9% 3 pt
Andrew - 36.6% FG/36.5% 3 pt



I normally like and agree with your posts, but these are not astronomically different and are in fact relatively close especially considering the different sample sizes.

Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
70782 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 7:16 pm to
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I normally like and agree with your posts, but these are not astronomically different and are in fact relatively close especially considering the different sample sizes.


5% difference is very big

Go from 36/36 down to 31/31 and those are awful numbers

36% FG is very mediocre, 36% 3 pt is decent

41% FG is good, 41% 3 pt is very very good...especially when you're talking about a smaller PG

Not only this, but Ulis has a better assist turnover ratio than Andrew. Ulis is simply better, proof is in the numbers. He shoots way better, makes better decisions and handles the ball with more care.
This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 7:18 pm
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
70782 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 7:19 pm to
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So just because Ulis FG% and 3point% is better than Andrew you mean to tell m e he is better?


No, MUCH better FG% and 3 pt %...ON TOP of being a better PG in itself with assist:to ratio. He is better across the board with the ball no matter how you want to slice it.

Andrew and Aaron Harrison arent smart bball players. Aaron has shot by far the most 3's on the team but shoots an abysmal 29% from 3. Andrew has taken the 3rd most overall shots on the team as a PG yet has by far the worst shooting percentage on the team outside of his own brother (of folks who actually play).
This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 7:22 pm
Posted by Minnesota Tigah
Somehow, Wisconsin
Member since Jul 2014
883 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 7:12 am to
2 more CBs for LSU since OP, LSU now ahead of MSU LINK
Posted by GeauxAggie972
Poterbin Residence
Member since Aug 2009
29533 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 7:29 am to
I would be curious to see if the Zags Blog writer has anything new. I think all the others are just piggybacking off of Meyer's swap but I know Zags Blog (No, it's not a Gonzaga website) sometimes gets some inside info
Posted by SNAPPERHEAD
Possumneck, Ms.
Member since Jan 2006
10052 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 12:56 pm to
We are the team to beat right now.
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 1:22 pm to
Posted by GeauxAggie972
Poterbin Residence
Member since Aug 2009
29533 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 1:23 pm to
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We are the team to beat right now.


Posted by geauxfred3
Member since Oct 2014
151 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 2:05 pm to
PG Newman
G Hornsby
G Blakeney
F Simmons
F Mickey/Martin (I doubt both stay if they do both will start)
If they don't stay I think You see Malone, Elbert, or Victor another big will have to step up. Probably see Patterson grey and quarterman all rotate throughout the guard position they can all play multiple positions but I could see this being the most talented lineup

also Think bridgewater can bring something to the table he looks like hes holding back some but when he attacks he showed can make some plays
This post was edited on 3/16/15 at 2:18 pm
Posted by BASED
yamamma the OG
Member since May 2012
3354 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 2:56 pm to
Martin isn't playing the 5 and hopefully Mickey doesn't either. Would like to see Victor or Robertson there.

Newman
Hornsby
Simmons
Mickey
Victor

Patterson
Blakeney
Quarterman
Epps
Robertson

That's nasty

Btw I don't see Blakeney starting from the jump over Hornsby. Not to say he won't play just as much if not more, but Keith starts as of now in my eyes.
This post was edited on 3/16/15 at 2:57 pm
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
31616 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 3:00 pm to
I feel like the only way Jones gets Mickey back is if he sells Mickey on experience at the 3. He and Simmons could switch out, so scouts can get a look at Micket at SF. Otherwise, I'm not sure what Mickey has to gain coming back as a 4 full-time.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 3:15 pm to
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Newman
Hornsby
Simmons
Mickey
Victor

Patterson
Blakeney
Quarterman
Epps
Robertson



I love Hornsby, but he isn't as good as Blakeney. Blakeney is a lottery pick that could take over a game with 30+ points.

Might get the "senior start" but he will either play alongside him or behind him most of the time IMO.

Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 3:19 pm to
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Otherwise, I'm not sure what Mickey has to gain coming back as a 4 full-time.



Ummmm

He's injured, a tweener, played his worst basketball at the end of the year, and is not projected to be drafted at all.

Next year we will be all over TV, he will have a stronger supporting cast, and he can work on his offensive game facing the basket (and defense on ball).

He won't be drafted at this point. He shouldn't go pro.

Martin is the opposite situation. He's 6'10" so he's got the height for a 4 in the NBA and he's peaking at the end of the year and is fully healthy. He should probably go pro, even though he could REALLY dominate next year as our 5 next to that ridiculous lineup. He wouldn't face the opponent #1 or double teams very often with Ben Simmons on the court.
Posted by SNAPPERHEAD
Possumneck, Ms.
Member since Jan 2006
10052 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 3:24 pm to
I agree. Love Hornsby's blue collar work ethic but Blakeney is way better. We may have to resurrect the old 1980s Tulane Posse style with 2 five man line-ups.
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
31616 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 3:26 pm to
I have the same stance you do in regards to Mickey coming back. I just think he's a NBA three that's having to play the 4 right now. If he wants to be a first round pick, he needs exposure at the 3. We can give him that opportunity of Epps and Robinson develop, and Simmons plays at the 4 against undersized teams

Posted by lil tiger22
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2005
6092 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 3:30 pm to
Mickey can barely dribble how's he gonna play the 3? He's an undersized 4 it's that simple. Mickey doesn't have the lateral quicks to guard a 3 and ha nowhere near the offensive game to be a 3.
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
31616 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 3:39 pm to
True. there are a lot more undersized power forwards now than ever in the NBA, so he could probably stay at the 4
Posted by billyholawboy
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2007
921 posts
Posted on 3/16/15 at 3:53 pm to
Martin is as much of a 5 as Mickey is a 3, which is NOT AT ALL. Martin is a slow 3 or a stretch 4 w/o a good outside shot, so I think he's going to need to drastically improve his quickness or extend his range- or really do both. But he has the higher upside.

Mickey is more comparable to Tasmin Mitchell in the sense that he's to slow to play the 3 & too short to match up w/ a lot of NBA 4's. (Admittedly, his defense is better than Taz, but his offense is not as developed). He really needs to stay another year
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