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Texas A&M to rule LA in recruiting if moved to SEC!!!!
Posted on 7/22/11 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 7/22/11 at 1:48 pm
This thread made me laugh all around, but especially this comment.
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I mean if teh man truely did his homework, he would realize that A&M has been sticking it to Les Miles the opast couple of years and would have a leg up on LA recruits if their parents knew they would get to see their kids play every year.
Thread is pretty funny all around...Aggies in general are really delusional (couple of reasonable posters in that thread). Comparing themselves more-so with the national title teams of recent other than, say, Arkansas which is what they would be in the SEC. It's like they forget when Arkansas and them were in the same conference they were very even with one another. What has Arkansas done in the SEC other than go championshipless for the last 19 years?
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I mean if teh man truely did his homework, he would realize that A&M has been sticking it to Les Miles the opast couple of years and would have a leg up on LA recruits if their parents knew they would get to see their kids play every year.
Thread is pretty funny all around...Aggies in general are really delusional (couple of reasonable posters in that thread). Comparing themselves more-so with the national title teams of recent other than, say, Arkansas which is what they would be in the SEC. It's like they forget when Arkansas and them were in the same conference they were very even with one another. What has Arkansas done in the SEC other than go championshipless for the last 19 years?
This post was edited on 7/22/11 at 1:51 pm
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Posted on 7/22/11 at 1:51 pm to thunderbird1100
I work with these people and have several aggie friends. They literally are some of the dumbest, most delusional fans of them all.
Have a conversation with any Aggie and I guarantee the U of Texas comes up at least twice. they cant help it.
Have a conversation with any Aggie and I guarantee the U of Texas comes up at least twice. they cant help it.
Posted on 7/22/11 at 1:58 pm to Brown Mountain
I say we let them in the sec but stipulate a rule that tamu fans can't talk about U of Texas and we just sit back and watch their heads explode 
Posted on 7/22/11 at 1:59 pm to Brown Mountain
Oh, and of course someone in the thread points out football is cyclical and A&M wont always be bad in the conference hinting at them beating us up in the early 1990s, not mentioning of course we were terrible then being a bottom feeder in the conference.
Last time Texas A&M beat LSU when LSU had a winning record? 1970
Last time Texas A&M beat LSU when LSU had a winning record? 1970
Posted on 7/22/11 at 3:35 pm to thunderbird1100
Arkansas-A&M all-time series record: 40-24-3 Arkansas.
They couldn't even hang with us in that league. What makes them think they would hang with LSU, Alabama and Florida much less us still?
They couldn't even hang with us in that league. What makes them think they would hang with LSU, Alabama and Florida much less us still?
Posted on 7/22/11 at 3:36 pm to TheCheshireHog
it's the Aggie Code that wills them through those tough periods.
Posted on 7/22/11 at 3:37 pm to thunderbird1100
ATM will always be second fiddle to Texas. See the crying.
Posted on 7/22/11 at 3:41 pm to Brown Mountain
quote:they will probably say TU though not UT
Have a conversation with any Aggie and I guarantee the U of Texas comes up at least twice. they cant help it.
Posted on 7/22/11 at 3:44 pm to thunderbird1100
If you read the discussions on that board you would think that the drilling we put on them in January never happened. They also believe not only would they rule TX and LA in recruiting that they would have a foothold in GA and FL as well.
Posted on 7/22/11 at 4:09 pm to thunderbird1100
Let Texas just keep sending us their Tolivers, Shepards, Randles, Brockers, etc.
Posted on 7/22/11 at 4:15 pm to longview2
ATM is the ugly girl that works out real hard and buys new clothes. She has it determined in her mind that she is gorgeous and that EVERYONE should know. Everyone else, knows she is still ugly.
Posted on 7/22/11 at 4:17 pm to GWfool
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If you read the discussions on that board you would think that the drilling we put on them in January never happened. They also believe not only would they rule TX and LA in recruiting that they would have a foothold in GA and FL as well.
I've never seen that said about GA and FL, but I also don't remember playing George Washington ... whatever that is.
In other news, much of recruiting has to do with exposure. If A&M were to start playing against SEC states on a regular basis we'd have more of a presence there and prospects would be more likely to choose A&M than they would if we were playing in the Big XII. That's a pretty common sense concept and I'm sure y'all follow that.
Going in and whooping everyone's arse in recruiting in their own state is a delusional train of thought.
Mike Sherman will be recruiting the LA area more regardless of our conference affiliation. Is he going to beat out Miles for everyone he wants? Nope. Will Miles beat out Sherman for everyone he wants? Should happen that way, but some kids want to go out of state to play.
If A&M plays in the SEC, and a LA kid wants to leave the state, but still wants his mama to be able to see him play - A&M would be a realistic possibility. Especially if mama cares about schooling.
These are all simple concepts, and would have more of an effect over time, but I don't think any of that thinking is unreasonable.
Posted on 7/22/11 at 4:21 pm to jackson123
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ATM is the ugly girl that works out real hard and buys new clothes. She has it determined in her mind that she is gorgeous and that EVERYONE should know. Everyone else, knows she is still ugly.
This doesn't even make sense. In this analogy, what are the clothes? What's working out?
So A&M is in really good shape and has cool uniforms? What the hell are you on?
Posted on 7/22/11 at 4:23 pm to bee Rye
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they will probably say TU though not UT
We say t.u. UT is in Tennessee. "University of Texas" implies that t.u. is the sole representative of the state, whereas their culture is more representative of Venice Beach than it is Texas. A&M is Texas. Hence the texas university.
Posted on 7/22/11 at 4:26 pm to AAM02
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If A&M were to start playing against SEC states on a regular basis we'd have more of a presence there and prospects would be more likely to choose A&M than they would if we were playing in the Big XII. That's a pretty common sense concept and I'm sure y'all follow that.
But from where? Sure, you could get kids that LSU, UGA, UF, etc...might not want. But you're not getting kids from LA LSU wants, you're certainly not getting kids from FL or GA to come all the way out to college station over going to UGA or UF.
Simply playing in the SEC will not let you steal the GOOD recruits from the powers of the conference. A&M is also a really far way away from the fertile grounds of FL/GA and would never have a strong presence there. You certainly would never be taking LA kids that grew up LSU fans with LSU offers.
I don't see where this big recruiting advantage comes from simply joining the conference. Arkansas saw no such advantage when they joined this conference. LA kids still go to LSU, MS kids don't go to Arkansas either. GA/FL kids dont choose Arky over SEC schools from there. Why would this be different for A&M?
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Posted on 7/22/11 at 4:45 pm to thunderbird1100
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you're certainly not getting kids from FL or GA to come all the way out to college station over going to UGA or UF.
We just got Shaun Ward the LBer from Florida that "Coach Boom" made a run for when he took over at UF. Recruiting is crazy and you never know what's going to connect with a kid.
I'd like A&M to go to the SEC because I think it'd be a great long-term move strategically. No team stays on top forever, so to say that we'll never get a kid out of LA that LSU wants is short-sighted. We both know LSU has sucked in the past. Guess what? You'll suck again in the future too. Crap happens in football and that's what makes it fun. Things are definitely looking good for y'all right now so live it up.
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Simply playing in the SEC will not let you steal the GOOD recruits from the powers of the conference. A&M is also a really far way away from the fertile grounds of FL/GA and would never have a strong presence there. You certainly would never be taking LA kids that grew up LSU fans with LSU offers.
Yeah, I was honestly surprised Sherman was recruiting a LBer out of Florida, but somehow he pulled it off. But that's not going to be our bread and butter. It's going to be Texas kids. Moving to the SEC is about 2 things in my opinion:
1) Our AD's goal is to "Build Champions". SEC has been winning National Championships. It'd mean more to me as a fan to go to the Nat'l Championship game and win it, so I'd rather my team play in the tougher conference. Yes, if we stay in the Big XII it may be an easier road to the title game, but our goal is to win it.
2) Differentiation from the longhorns. A&M has a pretty good record against the longhorns in recent history. Since I was born we've split the series. They've got great marketing, etc. so they recruit our state lights out. If I were a recruit in Texas and I was trying to decide between A&M and t.u., and things were otherwise equal in my mind, I would rather play for A&M in the SEC and have road games to LSU, Bama, Auburn, Ole Miss, etc. rather than play against Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, etc.
So, no, I don't think A&M in the SEC is going to automatically establish us as recruiting gods in other people's states. That's retarded. But, it's obvious to me that A&M joining the SEC would give us an edge in many recruiting situations that we presently do not enjoy.
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I don't see where this big recruiting advantage comes from simply joining the conference. Arkansas saw no such advantage when they joined this conference. LA kids still go to LSU, MS kids don't go to Arkansas either. GA/FL kids dont choose Arky over SEC schools from there. Why would this be different for A&M?
When Arkansas left the SWC they severed their exposure in Texas and therefore their Texas recruiting suffered. If Texas A&M joins the SEC we're not picking up our campus and moving it to Arkansas. We'll still be in Texas, thankfully.
Posted on 7/22/11 at 5:05 pm to AAM02
It makes perfect sense. The clothes and working out are the analogy for the facade ATM tries to put on to appear elite. They have money. They have facilities. Get it? Haven't finished in the top 5 since the 1950s. OU and Texas have dominated the Big 12 and they're an after thought.
Whoop!
Whoop!
Posted on 7/22/11 at 5:14 pm to AAM02
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We just got Shaun Ward the LBer from Florida that "Coach Boom" made a run for when he took over at UF. Recruiting is crazy and you never know what's going to connect with a kid.
One kid isn't going to make a difference. My point is you wont be getting any significant amount of kids from SEC powers in those respective states. If it didn't happen for Arkansas it's not going to happen for A&M.
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so to say that we'll never get a kid out of LA that LSU wants is short-sighted.
I never said never, LA kids who grew up LSU fans - sure, probably never, but in general LA kids. I'm saying in the context of thinking you'll get any significant impact on the state. It's simply not going to happen.
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1) Our AD's goal is to "Build Champions". SEC has been winning National Championships. It'd mean more to me as a fan to go to the Nat'l Championship game and win it, so I'd rather my team play in the tougher conference. Yes, if we stay in the Big XII it may be an easier road to the title game, but our goal is to win it.
If winning championships is a priority then moving to the toughest conference in college football is a very bad move for that. Consider Arkansas who you guys parallel with very much so in football and consider they have played in this conference for 19 years without so much as even 1 year with a conference championship. Near 20 years isnt a small sample size, either. I hear talk of parity in the SEC because 5 different teams have won BCSNC, but it's parity among THOSE teams. There's a reason there's a "Big 6" in the SEC - These are the six teams that have won the conference every year since 1976. That's right, among Tennessee, Auburn, Georgia, Florida, Alabama and LSU...only these teams have won the conference the last 35 years. A&M is not among these teams, they would be among the other 6 teams, like Arkansas.
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But, it's obvious to me that A&M joining the SEC would give us an edge in many recruiting situations that we presently do not enjoy.
It would give you an edge in getting more players from those states but NOT players those big SEC schools want. Your recruiting will still be basically UT leftovers from TX.
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When Arkansas left the SWC they severed their exposure in Texas and therefore their Texas recruiting suffered. If Texas A&M joins the SEC we're not picking up our campus and moving it to Arkansas. We'll still be in Texas, thankfully.
Why are you under the impression College Station is a more attractive place to play for kids from LA, MS, AL, GA, FL than Fayetteville? I dont think anyone outside of those 2 schools would believe that. Both schools are "far" away from these other big SEC states (A&M further) and neither are football powers.
And FYI Arkansas gets basically the same amount of kids from TX than they do from SEC country (outside of AR) put together.
Posted on 7/22/11 at 5:14 pm to jackson123
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It makes perfect sense. The clothes and working out are the analogy for the facade ATM tries to put on to appear elite. They have money. They have facilities. Get it? Haven't finished in the top 5 since the 1950s. OU and Texas have dominated the Big 12 and they're an after thought.
OU and the Longhorns only dominated the Big XII the last 10 years. You forget Nebraska. They dominated all of college football in the mid to late 90's.
Past is the past sir. I'm talking about the future. A&M has elite level money and facilities (and those are getting better, too), and that's no facade. We just need to get the right coach to put it all together. Hopefully Sherman is that guy. I'm happy with the progress he's made thus far.
Posted on 7/22/11 at 5:24 pm to AAM02
OU & Texas throughout eternity will be better than ATM 7/10 times. Will ATM beat them from time to time? Absolutely. But the "program" will never be at those levels. JUST WON'T HAPPEN.
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