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Posted on 4/21/09 at 9:23 pm to
Posted by JJ27
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Posted on 4/21/09 at 9:23 pm to
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Malzahn is one of the best OCs in the country and will be a HC within 2 years.


Malzahn can't hold Crowton's jock. It's not even close really. 1 season with unreal talent then he bales for Tulsa. You don't think he saw the writing on the wall? 1 season in the SEC with McFadden/Jones/Hillis and he's one of the best OCs in the country? Really? You must live in Arkansas and really be a fan of his high school accolades.
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 4/21/09 at 9:26 pm to
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1 season with unreal talent then he bales for Tulsa. You don't think he saw the writing on the wall? 1 season in the SEC with McFadden/Jones/Hillis and he's one of the best OCs in the country? Really? You must live in Arkansas and really be a fan of his high school accolades.


He was pretty much forced out by Nutt. Ask any Arkansas fan how that situation went down. Almost all of them adore Malzahn and despise Nutt, partially due to his treatment of Malzahn.

He's led a top 5 offense every year he's been an offensive coordinator, and won Offensive Coordinator of the Year twice.

This post was edited on 4/21/09 at 9:27 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/21/09 at 9:28 pm to
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Malzhan has won Offensive Coordinator of the Year twice and has led a top offense all three years of being a college coach.

yes what was saw at arky was the spread passing game that malzhan runs
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/21/09 at 9:29 pm to
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Malzahn is one of the best OCs in the country and will be a HC within 2 years.

he's already failed in the SEC once
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 4/21/09 at 9:30 pm to
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he's already failed in the SEC once


One of the years he won Offensive Coordinator of the Year was that year in the SEC, the year Arkansas made it to the SECCG.

How do you analyze his stay at Arkansas as a failure?
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 4/21/09 at 9:37 pm to
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I think you are attempting to merge two points, but you failed and this is simply a non-coherent point.


my original reply was to this:

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It's gotta be the preacher...I mean what running back in his right mind would be interested in attending Auburn. Good luck getting any publicity or getting drafted after going there...Auburn is an absolute graveyard for running backs.


You are the one trying to merge Curtis Luper and the legend of Arkansas HS football into Auburn having this fine history of producing top notch RBs. You fail.
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 4/21/09 at 9:38 pm to
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You are the one trying to merge Curtis Luper and the legend of Arkansas HS football into Auburn having this fine history of producing top notch RBs


May I have a link to where I did this?

ETA: I was merely addressing that "under this coaching staff" implies bad offensive coaches, and that my stance is that both Malzahn and Luper are good coaches.
This post was edited on 4/21/09 at 9:40 pm
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 4/21/09 at 9:39 pm to
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 4/21/09 at 9:40 pm to
See edit above.
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 4/21/09 at 9:41 pm to
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I was merely addressing that "under this coaching staff" implies bad offensive coaches


under this coaching staff merely implies that this coaching staff did not produce ANY of those AU RB greats yet we're still acting like "why wouldn't _______ want to come here its not like we dont produce studs hehehe." Nothing more.
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 4/21/09 at 9:42 pm to
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under this coaching staff merely implies that this coaching staff did not produce ANY of those AU RB greats yet we're still acting like "why wouldn't _______ want to come here its not like we dont produce studs hehehe." Nothing more.



Then I have misinterpreted your original post.
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 4/21/09 at 9:43 pm to
FRIENDS!!!!!!
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 4/21/09 at 9:49 pm to
Posted by woopiginaustin
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Posted on 4/21/09 at 10:04 pm to
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He doesn't have McFadden/Jones/Hillis or anything close to that in Auburn. He's also not playing against the shite teams that he did while at Tulsa. If you're expecting 50+ a game in the SEC, you're kidding yourself.


Malzahn is a HS coaching legend in Arkansas, adored by 99% of Arkansas fans, interviewed for the Arkansas HC position before the hiring of Petrino, and it's very likely that with the right mix of luck and timing, he will call Fayetteville home again.

With my homer sentiments out of the way.........

He was handcuffed, to say the least, under Nutt. Nutt was told by Broyles that he had to hire Malzahn. Nutt told Malzahn he couldn't run his "Hurry-up, No-Huddle" offense. Malzahn basically handed in plays each week and Nutt made the calls. But through his re-introduction of the single-wing via the "Wildcat", a formation he ran for a decade in HS, he was able to win Rivals OC of the Year.

At Tulsa he took Tulsa talent, the smallest D1 school in the nation, and won another OC of the Year. He takes what he is given and breaks offensive records. It's what he does.

By the way, in 3 years of college coaching, 3 conference championship games, and 3 Bowls, his offenses have ran the ball one (1) more time than they have thrown it. That is an amazing stat and perfect balance.

The SEC has never seen the likes of his "Hurry-up, No-Huddle" and it will be amusing to watch Auburn opponents have to score 50 points to beat them.

Additionally, the "hurry-up, no-huddle" can be ran from the wishbone, the "I", the spread, etc.... It's a matter of snapping the ball within 4 seconds of the spot, not a particular formation. Each player has a responsibility to speed up the game. Wide outs for example have to run down incomplete passes and run the ball back to the refs.


This post was edited on 4/21/09 at 10:07 pm
Posted by unleash the demon
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Posted on 4/21/09 at 10:09 pm to
Forced out by a nutt---sounds like a kidney stone--
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 4/21/09 at 10:17 pm to
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Wide outs for example have to run down incomplete passes and run the ball back to the refs.

Refs job.
Posted by woopiginaustin
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Posted on 4/21/09 at 10:19 pm to
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Refs job


Not in Malzahn's offense.

This all reminds me of 3 years ago when "High School" was laughed at at Arkansas.


Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 4/21/09 at 10:24 pm to
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This all reminds me of 3 years ago when "High School" was laughed at at Arkansas.


Ah...so Auburn has 3 running backs that will start this year that will start in their rookie years in the NFL? Gotcha I had no idea they were that loaded.
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
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Posted on 4/21/09 at 10:40 pm to
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The SEC has never seen the likes of his "Hurry-up, No-Huddle" and it will be amusing to watch Auburn opponents have to score 50 points to beat them.


i hope you don't really believe that they will average anywhere close to that in SEC play
Posted by unleash the demon
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Posted on 4/21/09 at 10:41 pm to
JJ@&---loaded, ask'em in December! They will say wait til next year!!
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