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re: Saw Christian Harris Fri night
Posted on 10/19/18 at 8:39 am to thunderbird1100
Posted on 10/19/18 at 8:39 am to thunderbird1100
He'll play it at AtM, you just wait and see.
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Posted on 10/19/18 at 8:46 am to tubucoco
He is too stiff brotato. How u expect he gonna be able to fill at a d1 level when his hs coach don't trust him to fill at a 2a level?
ETA I used a bad skill comparison. What I should have said is if he doesbr play downhill in hs, why would you think he will want to play downhill in the sec?
ETA I used a bad skill comparison. What I should have said is if he doesbr play downhill in hs, why would you think he will want to play downhill in the sec?
This post was edited on 10/19/18 at 8:49 am
Posted on 10/19/18 at 8:52 am to BigEdLSU
I think you're talking about a different position, I'm talking about LB'er, and he should make a fine LB at the college level.
Posted on 10/19/18 at 9:05 am to tubucoco
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I think you're talking about a different position, I'm talking about LB'er, and he should make a fine LB at the college level.
That's where most people believe he wont be good enough to play. He's never played LB before.
Posted on 10/19/18 at 9:13 am to thunderbird1100
yeah, but that doesn't mean anything, a lot of players change positions once in college to another position they never played in HS. He has the ability to play LB'er, the size, speed and everything, he just needs to get coached up like a lot of them get once they get in college. I played HS ball and college and when you're in HS you play both ways, offense and defense because you don't have enough players, and in HS they just throw you out there and tell you to go and play. You don't get any real coaching until you get to the college level. I guess we'll see what AtM winds up doing with him.
This post was edited on 10/19/18 at 9:15 am
Posted on 10/19/18 at 9:18 am to tubucoco
I'm a believer in putting guys in places to let them do what they are good at. Yes he certainly has an ilb frame, but he's too stiff to play OLB and he doesn't flash any aggressive plays where he takes on blocks and makes tackles.
Ilb in sec better be able to fight off of a pulling guard and still fill
Ilb in sec better be able to fight off of a pulling guard and still fill
Posted on 10/19/18 at 9:22 am to Tigerbait05
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He is dead set on playing wide receiver, LSU has a spot if he wants to transition to LB. Don't think its gonna happen
I think you might have him confused with Lee.
Posted on 10/19/18 at 9:30 am to BigEdLSU
yeah, I hear and get what you're saying, but as I said he's not really getting any coaching in HS right now, just playing ball off his natural ability. Once in college he'll get the right kind of coaching to help get him out of some of the bad shite he does now from just playing off of natural ability. But I'm just speculating like everybody else, I have no ideal what AtM will have him do.
Posted on 10/19/18 at 9:58 am to tubucoco
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a lot of players change positions once in college to another position they never played in HS.
This is very untrue, at least with similar positions. Elite guys tend to play a lot of different positions in high school (like you said). Harris is no exception, he is a bit weird though to choose WR/CB in high school considering he's like 6'1 235. LB is absolutely nothing like either of those positions. Not a single team he was in the running with was really recruiting him for either position, but that's what he plays. Most saw him as a H-back or in the case of the aggies ILB.
In the end though it's pretty rare for a high school kid to go to a power 5 school and end up playing a position they have NEVER played before. Or even something remotely close to it. For instance TE/OT is probably similar enough it's not a drastic change for guys like a Ray Parker. Or CB/S, or CB/WR...not gigantic changes. Even DL/OL, it's different, but again, at least it's just opposite side of trenches. Familiarity there.
Going from WR/CB to ILB though? That's a total seismic change and will take him years to learn how to even diagnose and attack plays and play freely vs. stiff. IMO I see him just being a special teams player first few years there, and if he "Gets it" on LB wont really be a factor there until year 3/4. Otherwise he'll probably just position shift.
This post was edited on 10/19/18 at 10:01 am
Posted on 10/19/18 at 12:31 pm to thunderbird1100
This is untrue, incredible, and you're going to tell someone that played college ball, man this is why I get pissed talking to y'all. LOL I'm not talking about elite players, I'm talking about the average players that are not elite, with them changing positions it happens a lot, but of course if you're a 5 star RB or WR, QB whatever chances are you'll stay at that position most of your career, but you always have to put your spin BS on what someone said to make them look like they don't know what the hell they're talking about when in fact it's you that don't know what you're talking about.
but hell, even some elite players have changed positions because they have the talent to do so just like this kid. And the last paragraph you wrote is utter BS, "seismic change" this is a kid with the size to play LB in college with no problem, as I already said earlier most of us played multiple positions in HS because of shortages of players on our team in HS or because they were just too good to take off the field. Him playing a position in college that they want him to play is when the real learning will happen anyways.
but hell, even some elite players have changed positions because they have the talent to do so just like this kid. And the last paragraph you wrote is utter BS, "seismic change" this is a kid with the size to play LB in college with no problem, as I already said earlier most of us played multiple positions in HS because of shortages of players on our team in HS or because they were just too good to take off the field. Him playing a position in college that they want him to play is when the real learning will happen anyways.
This post was edited on 10/19/18 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 10/19/18 at 12:39 pm to tubucoco
Players drastically changing positions to something they literally have never played in college is not "common" as you said. Something that rarely happens is not common. Especially when it comes to supposedly elite players like Christian Harris. Not only shift positions, but actually play it well which is what is being argued here.
Going from WR/CB to ILB is a complete seismic shift and nothing like anything he's done before. There's certainly major questions surrounding if he's capable playing that role, enough to where 2 of his Top 3 schools initially didn't offer him for that position. Again some position changes are natural and easy to learn as previously mentioned. Going from WR/CB to ILB though? Might as well be a dang QB practically
Learning curve will just be gigantic.
Also, we get it, you played football, so did A LOT of us too. Doesnt make you an expert on everything, nor do you see everyone else always throwing that around if you didn't notice.
Going from WR/CB to ILB is a complete seismic shift and nothing like anything he's done before. There's certainly major questions surrounding if he's capable playing that role, enough to where 2 of his Top 3 schools initially didn't offer him for that position. Again some position changes are natural and easy to learn as previously mentioned. Going from WR/CB to ILB though? Might as well be a dang QB practically
Learning curve will just be gigantic. Also, we get it, you played football, so did A LOT of us too. Doesnt make you an expert on everything, nor do you see everyone else always throwing that around if you didn't notice.
This post was edited on 10/19/18 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 10/19/18 at 12:40 pm to tubucoco
quote:Don't go off the rails, again, man. You've been doing a great job of posting without getting all emotional about people disagreeing with you.
tubucoco
I happen to disagree with you here, too, but I'll save it for another time.
Have a tremendous Friday/Weekend
Posted on 10/19/18 at 12:45 pm to thunderbird1100
Man, you don't know what you're talking about, but you're trying to act like a expert on here. It's not about me playing college ball here, but you speculating that Christian Harris won't be able to play LB'er in college, and that's a joke plain and simple to me because you haven't a clue what will happen. People on here are often wrong, but try to act like the biggest experts in the world, and that's a joke to me more than anything it irritates me. And was it a seismic shift for Devin White who mostly wanted to be a RB, but wound up being a really good ILB for LSU?? No, it wasn't!
This post was edited on 10/19/18 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 10/19/18 at 12:54 pm to tubucoco
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Man, you don't know what you're talking about, but you're trying to act like a expert on here.
You were flat out wrong on it being "common" for players to switch positions they've literally never played before. If it happens to a few kids, that's not "common", and again, playing it on a high level is a whole different matter. We have moved Stevens around just about everywhere and he still hasnt found a niche yet.
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It's not about me playing college ball here,
Yet you seem to bring that up every single time like it matters. Again, you arent the only one to have ever played the game of football in grade school and college, it also doesnt make you the subject matter expert on everything.
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but you speculating that Christian Harris won't be able to play LB'er in college, and that's a joke plain and simple to me because you haven't a clue what will happen.
You apparently cant read because I said there are QUESTIONS surrounding if he can make that transition, because it is an entirely different position than he ever played before. Where did I say there's no way he can play ILB? I said it would take time for him to learn it, do you disagree? Do you think he will step and be a starter day 1 at ILB in aggyland? He'll just pick up an entirely new position and run with it from the get go?
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And was it a seismic shift for Devin White who mostly wanted to be a RB, but wound up being a really good ILB for LSU?? No, it wasn't!
He played linebacker in high school too you dummy. It wasn't a sesimic shift at all. He played RB and LB in high school. He was recruited as an athlete because he excelled at both RB and LBer. So no, not a seismic shift at all to go from playing linebacker and racking up almost 200 tackles in high school to playing linebacker here too.
This post was edited on 10/19/18 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 10/19/18 at 1:03 pm to thunderbird1100
"Dummy" there's the insult, do you even have a clue because you seriously need to get one, asswipe! I'm not interested in what you have to say or think you know because you don't know jackshit. I figured it wouldn't be long before an insult came out of your douchebag mouth. You haven't listened to a damn thing I said, so why should I listen to the BS you spout. Guess what, arse? I played CB, FS, RB, WR, backup QB and PR/KR on my HS team. Then went to college on a scholly and played CB and PR/KR where it all really begins, you're playing the position in college you were meant to play. It doesn't matter if Devin White played LB in HS asshat because he was just mostly out there tackling people, and not really learning how to be a real LB, that process began at LSU. Now GFY!
This post was edited on 10/19/18 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 10/19/18 at 1:10 pm to tubucoco
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"Dummy" there's the insult, do you even have a clue because you seriously need to get one
Well apparently I knew Devin White played linebacker and played it well in high school...and well, you tried to say he made a "position switch" to linebacker in college
God I haven't used this one in forever
Posted on 10/19/18 at 1:26 pm to thunderbird1100
Everything, I said clean overhead, asshat! Harris can't do the same even though LSU was recruiting him to be LB. LOL A WR btw that's bigger than DW at 6'2 240, I really wanna see him play WR at AtM. Shut ya retarded arse up, you should be on that ship you just posted that capsized!
This post was edited on 10/19/18 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 10/19/18 at 1:34 pm to tubucoco
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Harris can't do the same even though LSU was recruiting him to be LB.
Except we werent, my god, you are just spewing 1 incorrect thing after the next now. This is when you really go off the rails as per usual.
We recruited Harris on offense, not defense, tried to sell him on H-back.
Posted on 10/19/18 at 1:43 pm to thunderbird1100
"Go off the rails" I think you dummies been working on the rails too long. They're various stories out there anyone of them I can go and pull up about not only LSU recruiting him to play LB'er, but other schools as well. Stop wasting my time you joke of a clown, I've got better things to do.
This post was edited on 10/19/18 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 10/19/18 at 1:49 pm to tubucoco
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"Go off the rails" I think you dummies been working on the rails too long. They're various stories out there anyone of them I can go and pull up about not only LSU recruiting him to play LB'er, but other schools as well. Stop wasting my time you joke of a clown, I've got better things to do.
Every insider will tell you our offer was on offense, not defense. Aranda was not recruiting him for LB, sorry, not sure what you heard but it's wrong.
This post was edited on 10/19/18 at 1:49 pm
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