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re: Ricardo Gathers to St. Johns
Posted on 8/2/11 at 8:55 am to dos crystal
Posted on 8/2/11 at 8:55 am to dos crystal
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not saying gathers isn't good. i don't know. Just pointing out that if you are depending these people to tell you who can play and who can't, they aren't alway right.
Just know I've seen him play a couple times and I saw his AAU team without him. He is a high flyer for sure but has nothing else to his game. 6'6 or 6'7 with short arms and no real ability to play any sort of defense. Sounds like a smaller Storm Warren to me! He has no go to move or any move other than jump.
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Posted on 8/2/11 at 8:59 am to Coach D
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Just know I've seen him play a couple times and I saw his AAU team without him. He is a high flyer for sure but has nothing else to his game. 6'6 or 6'7 with short arms and no real ability to play any sort of defense. Sounds like a smaller Storm Warren to me! He has no go to move or any move other than jump.
This is a very accurate description of Gathers. It will be interesting to see how he plays against others that's will be just as big and as strong as him. He's dominate at the high school level because he's so much bigger and stronger than his competition.
Posted on 8/2/11 at 9:18 am to Coach D
I think the Storm Warren comparison is a very good one.
Posted on 8/2/11 at 11:32 am to Bubba Hotep
I think we should all see how things shake out. If we are still harping on recruting or lack of recruiting at this time next year Trent obiously must be sent packing.
Posted on 8/2/11 at 12:16 pm to dos crystal
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didn't those same people who do it for living have Morgan a five star can't miss prospect? he turned out well.
Sure because of his size not many raved about his ability.
Posted on 8/2/11 at 12:46 pm to Bubba Hotep
quote:
I think the Storm Warren comparison is a very good one.
Gathers has a ton of more athletic ability.....
Posted on 8/2/11 at 1:17 pm to Corn Dawg Nation
in 3 years we won't be saying we missed out
gathers is a man amongst boys right now. he doesnt have a discernible skillset other than just being bigger and stronger than his competition
he wont be a 4 in college and doesnt have the ballskills to be a 3 right now
gathers is a man amongst boys right now. he doesnt have a discernible skillset other than just being bigger and stronger than his competition
he wont be a 4 in college and doesnt have the ballskills to be a 3 right now
Posted on 8/2/11 at 1:26 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:
he wont be a 4 in college
He will definitely be a 4 in college.
Posted on 8/2/11 at 1:28 pm to dj30
Gathers claims he will be a 3. I can't imagine he will sign with a college that didn't agree that was his position.
Posted on 8/2/11 at 1:37 pm to boosiebadazz
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he doesnt have a discernible skillset other than just being bigger and stronger than his competition
Rebounding translates among all levels. If he's looking like a rebounding beast to everybody watching him in AAU's then he isn't just doing it on smaller opponents, since he's probably on 6'7'' he's probably undersized against a lot of AAU's.
This post was edited on 8/2/11 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 8/2/11 at 1:43 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:
he wont be a 4 in college and doesnt have the ballskills to be a 3 right now
Tasmin Mitchell esque (when it comes to what was said about him in the NBA)?
Posted on 8/2/11 at 1:43 pm to boosiebadazz
dp
This post was edited on 8/2/11 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 8/2/11 at 1:54 pm to saintsfan22
quote:
since he's probably on 6'7'' he's probably undersized against a lot of AAU's
His arse isn't undersized against other AAU's. I'd say it's the complete opposite for most of the competition he plays against. You don't see many high school basketball players that are 6'7" 250 lbs and strong as an ox (relatively speaking) and has his athleticism.
Posted on 8/2/11 at 1:55 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
I'm talking about against top AAU's who definitely have players bigger than 6'7''.
Posted on 8/2/11 at 2:04 pm to dj30
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He will definitely be a 4 in college.
he may have to play the 4 bc he cant stay with 3's, but that doesnt mean that is his optimal position
with his frame, he would be an absolute stud 3 if he had any ball skills
he's too undersized to be a 4 and he won't be able to outmuscle people at the next level
Posted on 8/2/11 at 2:06 pm to c on z
i see him as very tazmin mitchell-esqu except i dont see the mechanics for a servicaeable jumper a la taz
he's an impressive specimen at the high school level, but i just dont see him developing much at the d1 level
and i would be saying the same thing if trent had signed him
he's an impressive specimen at the high school level, but i just dont see him developing much at the d1 level
and i would be saying the same thing if trent had signed him
Posted on 8/2/11 at 2:08 pm to boosiebadazz
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he's too undersized to be a 4 and he won't be able to outmuscle people at the next level
If he adds 15 lbs he can be a Dejuan Blair/Paul Milsap type.
Posted on 8/2/11 at 2:08 pm to boosiebadazz
*DP*
This post was edited on 8/2/11 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 8/2/11 at 2:12 pm to saintsfan22
blair is an outlier and isn't milsap closer to 6'9?
i just dont see much fluidity in gathers at all. from his movements to how he handles the ball to his jumper
its not fluid bballish. its herky-jerky explosive footballish. i dont think he can get by with that as he moves up a level of competition
i just dont see much fluidity in gathers at all. from his movements to how he handles the ball to his jumper
its not fluid bballish. its herky-jerky explosive footballish. i dont think he can get by with that as he moves up a level of competition
This post was edited on 8/2/11 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 8/2/11 at 2:26 pm to boosiebadazz
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he's too undersized to be a 4 and he won't be able to outmuscle people at the next level
Maybe not in the NBA, but in college he surely can.
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