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re: Recruiting Louisiana: SABAN >>>>> Les Miles

Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:17 pm to
where is the argument here? We lost a guy it looks like to a school where he can get immediate playing time. I'd rather lose him than La'el Collins.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
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Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:17 pm to
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but Saban and Auburn always get them over Les




Given Saban runs a 3-4 defensive scheme, what makes you think that we can just impose our will on LB recruits from Alabama?
Posted by Louie T
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Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:18 pm to
So basically whatever you deem they are, they are?

Everyone else including NFL scouts and college scouts believe some of these guys are marquee players.
Posted by Machiavellian
Member since Oct 2010
214 posts
Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:18 pm to
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rovon Reed wasn't a marquee prospect.


arguably the highest-rated Louisiana kid in 2009 and LSU wanted him, thus he was a marquee in-state loss
Posted by Louie T
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:19 pm to
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where is the argument here? We lost a guy it looks like to a school where he can get immediate playing time. I'd rather lose him than La'el Collins.
Guys like Toliver aren't marquee OOS pickups
Posted by bmy
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:19 pm to
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arguably the highest-rated Louisiana kid in 2009 and LSU wanted him, thus he was a marquee in-state loss



LSU didn't want him that badly. Not marquee. He wasn't even the best receiver in the state last year.. not even close.
This post was edited on 12/11/10 at 2:20 pm
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:19 pm to
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Joe McKnight,



Earlier, you said that there were guys that we got who didn't live up to the hype.

Well this guy didn't either.
Posted by Machiavellian
Member since Oct 2010
214 posts
Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:19 pm to
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Based on your logic if the #1 player in it's own state isn't sought out by the home school, then he isn't a marquee recruit.


no, my point was it wasn't a difficult battle for Les because the kid was legacy and the in-state power didn't put up a battle
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:19 pm to
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and LSU wanted him,


LSU wanted him sure but they never put the full court press on him. He would have been a fine replacement for Chris Mitchell however.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75908 posts
Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:20 pm to
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Janzen Jackson, Joe McKnight, etc.


Robinson and Reed.

So basically we lose marquee in-state players to schools and coaches that have been tied to recruiting and improper benefit scandals. I can live with that.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:21 pm to
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no, my point was it wasn't a difficult battle for Les because the kid was legacy and the in-state power didn't put up a battle



how exactly does this change a recruits ability? that would be the definition of a marquee player..

if it does not change a recruits ability -- then what the shite is your problem with miles OOS recruiting?
This post was edited on 12/11/10 at 2:22 pm
Posted by jdg91878
Do overs+Opinion poll politics =MNC
Member since Oct 2010
3742 posts
Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:22 pm to
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Posted by bmy quote: You tools are so very predictable. Just add Saban into the header and watch the scramble ensue. Wish you'd keep your retarded arse off the recruiting board.


Just wanted to point out that we are on 9 pages, working on 10, so obviously it's an engaging topic. If you don't like then go away. Start a Les Miles apologist thread or something..
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:23 pm to
when we are taking the best players from across the southeast we are going to lose out on recruits. who gives a frick who's marquee and who's not.









Posted by Louie T
Member since Dec 2006
36601 posts
Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:23 pm to
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no, my point was it wasn't a difficult battle for Les because the kid was legacy and the in-state power didn't put up a battle
Why does it matter if he's from a state that doesn't have a huge instate school? If a guy from NC is choosing between LSU and Bama and he chooses LSU, it's still a huge recruiting win for LSU.
Posted by Machiavellian
Member since Oct 2010
214 posts
Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:24 pm to
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I'd much rather our coaches find productive guys from anywhere such as Kelvin Sheppard


for every one Sheppard, there is 8 kids like JT Lott, Cordian Hagans, Ernest McCoy, Steven Singleton, etc.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:24 pm to
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Just wanted to point out that we are on 9 pages, working on 10, so obviously it's an engaging topic. If you don't like then go away. Start a Les Miles apologist thread or something..


Engaging? Or frustrating? Feel like I'm dealing with trolls here. Not a single person would be upset to see you banned fwiw.
Posted by Louie T
Member since Dec 2006
36601 posts
Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:24 pm to
Go through Bama and Auburn's recruiting classes and you'll come up with the same.

Quit being such a pussy
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75908 posts
Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:25 pm to
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Just wanted to point out that we are on 9 pages, working on 10, so obviously it's an engaging topic. If you don't like then go away.


Obviously you have reading comprehension problems, this thread isn't about Saban anymore, and it hasn't gone 9 pages because you mentioned his name.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75908 posts
Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:26 pm to
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for every one Sheppard, there is 8 kids like JT Lott, Cordian Hagans, Ernest McCoy, Steven Singleton, etc.

you found a new deflection! Yay!
Posted by Machiavellian
Member since Oct 2010
214 posts
Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:27 pm to
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So basically we lose marquee in-state players to schools and coaches that have been tied to recruiting and improper benefit scandals. I can live with that.


fair enough.

If we lost McKnight, Jackson and Reed and Robinson to $$$ from Carroll, Kiffin and Auburn then I can live with it too. If that was the case..maybe we know some day, maybe we don't
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