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re: Recruiting Louisiana: SABAN >>>>> Les Miles
Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:06 pm to ProjectP2294
Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:06 pm to ProjectP2294
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You realize that some of the guys that you claim weren't marquee were Top 100 players out of high school? You aren't stating facts, you are using your opinion of players as a basis for your argument and it proves nothing except that you have a flawed view of history.
Again, if they weren't highly coveted guys that the in-state powers went after then I don't call them marquee.
Most of those highly rated players by Rivals that we got OOS were kids that came from states where there was no in-state recruiting power OR kids that the in-state powers passed on (in TX, AL, FL, GA)
LSU is a power, so when we lose top rated kids that we really want from the state of Louisiana then that's a problem IMO
Why is it so hard to accept my opinion on this? You can have your own and that's fine
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Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:07 pm to Machiavellian
quote:Very rarely does it happen
LSU is a power, so when we lose top rated kids that we really want from the state of Louisiana then that's a problem IMO
We go out of state and do it just as often
quote:Because it's idiotic
Why is it so hard to accept my opinion on this?
Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:07 pm to Machiavellian
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Again, if they weren't highly coveted guys that the in-state powers went after then I don't call them marquee.
Most of those highly rated players by Rivals that we got OOS were kids that came from states where there was no in-state recruiting power OR kids that the in-state powers passed on (in TX, AL, FL, GA)
LSU is a power, so when we lose top rated kids that we really want from the state of Louisiana then that's a problem IMO
Why is it so hard to accept my opinion on this? You can have your own and that's fine
It's because your opinion on what makes a player marquee involves having an in-state school pursue him. If there is no in-state traditional power and the kid is #1 overall in the nation, by your definition, he is not marquee. It's obvious to everyone that it is nothing more than a tool to prop up a weak argument.
This post was edited on 12/11/10 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:07 pm to bmy
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And we have -- yet you refuse to recognize that fact. You dismissed Terrance Tolliver as a legacy and said that he was 'passed up' when he was top-15 overall in the nation and a 5*
Mack Brown didn't go after him. Texas Longhorns are the in-state power where Toliver came from. It's that simple.
Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:08 pm to Machiavellian
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Why is it so hard to accept my opinion on this?
It's not hard to accept your opinion, people have terrible opinions all the time. But you are stating your opinion as if it is fact, and your opinion is actually illogical and ill informed.
Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:09 pm to GeauxAggie972
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Message Posted by GeauxAggie972 Can we just ban this Machia guy? And jdg why we are at it? This thread has been a whole lot of nonsense for way too many pages.
You tools are so very predictable. Just add Saban into the header and watch the scramble ensue.
Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:09 pm to Machiavellian
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Mack Brown didn't go after him. Texas Longhorns are the in-state power where Toliver came from. It's that simple.
I'm sure TT never heard from Texas once.
Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:10 pm to jdg91878
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You tools are so very predictable. Just add Saban into the header and watch the scramble ensue.
Wish you'd keep your retarded arse off the recruiting board.
Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:10 pm to Louie T
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Joseph Barksdale
4 star #67 player on Rivals
5 star on Scout
All SEC player
From MICHIGAN
But he's not a marquee recruit
ok, I'll give you Barsdale...sure. Doesn't change my position
Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:11 pm to Machiavellian
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ok, I'll give you Barsdale...sure. Doesn't change my position
So that brings up.. wait, I think it's more out of state recruiting wins than both Chizik and Saban have over the past *few years.
edit: i said 2
This post was edited on 12/11/10 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:12 pm to Machiavellian
quote:So Barksdale and Patrick Peterson = 2
ok, I'll give you Barsdale...sure. Doesn't change my position
Reed and Robinson = 2
Where is the huge disparity, dimwit?
Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:13 pm to bmy
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It's because your opinion on what makes a player marquee involves having an in-state school pursue him
yes. they do have the most information on the kid
just like Frank Alexander and some other high rated kids from Louisiana. I don't mind them going elsewhere because we didn't want them.
But when we want them and they leave like Janzen Jackson, Reed, etc. - then it's not a good thing obviously
Of course this will happen, but I just would like to see us go into Alabama - where there are always top LB prospects - and get a kid at a position we always need ..we're always in on these guys but Saban and Auburn always get them over Les
Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:14 pm to Machiavellian
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But when we want them and they leave like Janzen Jackson, Reed, etc. - then it's not a good thing obviously
Trovon Reed wasn't a marquee prospect.
Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:14 pm to ProjectP2294
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It's not hard to accept your opinion, people have terrible opinions all the time. But you are stating your opinion as if it is fact, and your opinion is actually illogical and ill informed.
that's your opinion :)
Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:15 pm to Machiavellian
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Mack Brown didn't go after him. Texas Longhorns are the in-state power where Toliver came from. It's that simple.
Based on your logic if the #1 player in it's own state isn't sought out by the home school, then he isn't a marquee recruit.
Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:15 pm to jdg91878
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Just add Saban into the header and watch the scramble ensue.
I could care less about Saban
my point has everything to do with Miles and staff
Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:15 pm to c on z
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Based on your logic if the #1 player in it's own state isn't sought out by the home school, then he isn't a marquee recruit.
Yes
Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:16 pm to Machiavellian
quote:That's because you're an idiot
just like Frank Alexander and some other high rated kids from Louisiana. I don't mind them going elsewhere because we didn't want them.
But when we want them and they leave like Janzen Jackson, Reed, etc. - then it's not a good thing obviously
I'd much rather our coaches find productive guys from anywhere such as Kelvin Sheppard (who didn't get offered by instate) than other players who got offers from in-state teams
Posted on 12/11/10 at 2:17 pm to Louie T
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So Barksdale and Patrick Peterson = 2
Reed and Robinson = 2
Janzen Jackson, Joe McKnight, etc.
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