re: Recruiting Louisiana: SABAN >>>>> Les Miles

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how many different arguments are you going to make? Whether or not he is better now has nothing to do with how his recruitment transpired. You really have trouble with logic.

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Ok. Fair enough. Let's back Jefferson (a duel-threat QB like Thomas is) out of the conversation for a moment then.

Let's compare Lee, a TX QB who we took, versus Thomas, a TX QB that we had but Oregon took

How has that worked out for each respective program?

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Let's compare Lee, a TX QB who we took, versus Thomas, a TX QB that we had but Oregon took

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Lee still has nothing to do with Darron Thomas' recruitment. Changing the wording of your deflection doesn't make it not a deflection.

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Lee still has nothing to do with Darron Thomas' recruitment. Changing the wording of your deflection doesn't make it not a deflection.

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everything I mentioned is reality, regardless if it crosses over into different debates or points

Darron was a commitment for a fairly long period of time. I doubt he all of the sudden decomitted because he found out Miles lied to him about not being able to play QB. We told Darron he was going to get a shot at QB first, just like we told Shep

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Let's compare Lee, a TX QB who we took, versus Thomas, a TX QB that we had but Oregon took

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They did not come out of the same class. And like someone said, Thomas was not taken from LSU.


Now think about this:

Given how we went from a traditional blocking scheme to a zone blocking scheme in 2009, would he still have a chance to succeed given the results from it? I am not sure if want to have go through something like that given how things turned out.



Also, Miles could have said what he said to Thomas thinking he was still going to have Perriloux.

With all of that being said how many people knew how good Thomas was going to be in his high school days outside of the idea of knowing he would be good in the right system? On paper he was short of being a Top 10 overall QB in a 2008 recruiting class where there was not a whole lot of great QB talent outside of Pryor, Luck and Gabbert. Oregon simply saw an opportunity in Thomas being on the board, they took him in and put him in a system that was a fit for him and the rest is history.

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everything I mentioned is reality, regardless if it crosses over into different debates or points

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But you aren't proving your point in anything you say, you keep bringing up things that are tangentially related at best.

What exactly is the point you are trying to make? You keep shifting the focus of your argument every time someone proves you wrong.

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and arguably his only marquee one that the big in-state schools were in on

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You are so fricking stupid

Recruits we've stolen from elite programs in the last 2 years.. and I'm sure there are more.

5* Spencer Ware (Ohio St)
5* Craig Loston (Texas)
5* Russell Shepard (Texas)
4* Kadron Boone (Florida and Georgia)
4* Evan Washington (Oklahoma)

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But you aren't proving your point in anything you say, you keep bringing up things that are tangentially related at best.

What exactly is the point you are trying to make? You keep shifting the focus of your argument every time someone proves you wrong.

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Not true. My original point is that Miles and staff have not been as effective as other top SEC schools at going out of state and luring marquee players

Richt, Meyer, Saban and now Chiz are/have been doing a better job. Even Kiffin was until he left

Les and Co. probably do better than Miss St, Ole Miss, South Carolina, Arkansas and most other SEC schools... but then again, aren't we supposed to??

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Shep?

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Texas didnt want him

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Loston?

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we stole from Clemson because he was never a Mack Brown prospect either

Remember, I'm talking about the top in-state schools being in on the players -- Just like we were in on Reed and Robinson and lost them to out of state programs

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Not true. My original point is that Miles and staff have not been as effective as other top SEC schools at going out of state and luring marquee players

Richt, Meyer, Saban and now Chiz are/have been doing a better job. Even Kiffin was until he left

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we competed against Oklahoma for Evan Washington, even though he was from Texas.

LOL these are all out of state kids since 2009. Isn't trolling bannable on the recruiting board?


5* Spencer Ware (Ohio St)
5* Craig Loston (Texas)
5* Russell Shepard (Texas)
4* Kadron Boone (Florida and Georgia)
4* Evan Washington (Oklahoma)
4* David Jenkins (Texas)
4* Copeland
4* Ego Ferguson
4* Jakhari Gore
4* Justin Maclin
4* Michael Brockers
4* Drayton Calhoun
4* Akiem Hicks
4* Stavion Lowe
4* Kevin Minter
4* Sam Montgomery