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re: Raydar Jones is a top 50 prospect

Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:07 pm to
Posted by I20goon
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Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:07 pm to
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He has great physical stats and hopefully makes the transition to CB
based on below, he has the thumbs up from CR for that transition. Not definitive by any means, but gives a good insight into how the staff sees him.
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“Corey Raymond (LSU secondary coach) did an excellent job of recruiting Raydarious. We fought all day. We were on the phone fighting all day with a lot of recruits, and it was about finishing and about him having a great visit. But you’ve got to give Corey Raymond the credit. He did a tremendous job. Long tall cornerback, athletic ability. He was a quarterback on a state championship team. Can run. Has great ball skills. Physical. Is a competitor. He reminds us a lot of Greedy Williams (LSU All-American cornerback in 2018).”


I think two years from now we will be amazed at McCallum and Jones. They will be impact players, and are both very coachable with great instincts.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27695 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 4:58 am to
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Bear in mind we recruited him to play a position that he has not played much or at all. His major experience is as a QB.


What exactly goes into the cornerback position in high school? What routes do you have to defend? Maybe two, slant and go route?

Hell, Scotlandville moved Kelvin Joseph from corner to safety because he wasn’t impacting the game at all as a corner due to lack of targets.

Him playing a different position in high school just doesn’t bother me at all. And to add, he played QB — the most pivotal position of all. And he played at a high level. On a state championship winning team. In Mississippi’s highest classification.
This post was edited on 1/24/19 at 4:59 am
Posted by dstone12
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/24/19 at 10:13 am to
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Him playing a different position in high school just doesn’t bother me at all. And to add, he played QB — the most pivotal position of all. And he played at a high level. On a state championship winning team. In Mississippi’s highest classification.


Damn that was well-worded.
Good points.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/24/19 at 10:15 am to
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What exactly goes into the cornerback position in high school? What routes do you have to defend? Maybe two, slant and go route?


Posted by mtheob17
Charleston, SC
Member since Sep 2009
5449 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 11:24 am to
He could be another Greedy Williams IMO
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5440 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 1:16 pm to
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What exactly goes into the cornerback position in high school? What routes do you have to defend? Maybe two, slant and go route?

Hell, Scotlandville moved Kelvin Joseph from corner to safety because he wasn’t impacting the game at all as a corner due to lack of targets.

Him playing a different position in high school just doesn’t bother me at all. And to add, he played QB — the most pivotal position of all. And he played at a high level. On a state championship winning team. In Mississippi’s highest classification.





That's a good point. Similarly, I watched Christian Harris be the biggest fastest guy on the field for Uhigh this year but never actually saw him hit anyone or really do anything except return kicks.
Posted by OppositeMan
Member since Apr 2018
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Posted on 1/24/19 at 1:44 pm to
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I watched Christian Harris be the biggest fastest guy on the field for Uhigh this year but never actually saw him hit anyone or really do anything except return kicks.


What are you saying? So he's never played defense, much less LB...big deal. He was a low 4-star ATH a year ago, and now he's the #6 rated ILB nationally and the only ILB in the top 10 that's never played LB before. And he's going to bama. I'm not seeing the issue here at all.



Posted by ECOTIGER
westbank for life
Member since Dec 2007
3114 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 5:25 pm to
Pretty sure he's comparing the fact that Raydar is ranked lower because he's projected to play a position he didn't play in high school.

Yet Harris didn't play ILB in high school and is projected to play that at the next level. He's also some how ranked higher than his own teammate that did play ILB and signed with Clemson.

You can't rank Harris based off his potential and athleticism and then do the complete opposite with Raydar.
This post was edited on 1/24/19 at 5:29 pm
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27695 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 6:43 pm to
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You can't rank Harris based off his potential and athleticism and then do the complete opposite with Raydar.


Exactly
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
35656 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:05 pm to
What happened with Christian Harris.



Did he want to leave Louisiana?
Did he just like Alabama they much?
Did Orgeron/Aranda just not like him well being for an offer?


Posted by BASED
yamamma the OG
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:25 pm to
We offered as an H-Back after he didn’t wanna work out in camp for Aranda at LBer
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5440 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:58 pm to
Excellent post
Posted by OppositeMan
Member since Apr 2018
1853 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 8:29 am to
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Did he want to leave Louisiana?
Did he just like Alabama they much?
Did Orgeron/Aranda just not like him well being for an offer?


I've read that he refused to work out at LB for the LSU coaches. Seeing as how Aranda didn't have any film on him playing LB, because he's never done that before, Aranda opted to pass on him.

McCallum is his replacement, and I like McCallum, and Scottish people in general, more than Harris.

247 does say we offered, though.
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5440 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 8:40 am to
Exactly. He wanted to be a corner but is built to be a LB, but is a little too big and not fast enough to be an elite corner in college. He only came to this realization af few months ago and we really had already moved on to better lber prospects. Problem is he never played lber and at corner really never hit anyone so Bama just got a linebacker with no tackling experience. I'd take McCallum every day over what we were presented.
Posted by OppositeMan
Member since Apr 2018
1853 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 8:49 am to
I hope Tyrion Davis-Price flattens him like an inbred pancake.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
35656 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 4:06 pm to
Yet he’s going to Alabama as a LB right?
Posted by OppositeMan
Member since Apr 2018
1853 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 4:31 pm to
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Yet he’s going to Alabama as a LB right?


Harris?

Yes.

Go on...
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
35656 posts
Posted on 1/26/19 at 12:13 pm to
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Harris?

Yes.

Go on...



Would be some huge melts if he tears it up at Alabama at lb.
Posted by Darius David
Member since Apr 2016
1344 posts
Posted on 1/26/19 at 12:33 pm to
He will. We should have taken him
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
35656 posts
Posted on 1/26/19 at 2:03 pm to
Did he work out at lb w Bama? If so, sounds like he didn’t want to go to LSU.
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