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re: Oregon offers rodney

Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:13 pm to
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:13 pm to
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You think it's out of the realm of possibility that he called his former assistant and asked him for a favor?


For this "favor"? Absolutely absurd.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:16 pm to
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You think it's out of the realm of possibility

I do. It's completely out of the realm of possibility that a major college head coach would use a scholarship on a guy that he feels isn't scholarship worthy based on the request of his former boss.

Oregon is like a top 20 job nationally. You really think the head coach is going to do something to possibly jeopardize is job to help his old boss out?

This is some tin foil hat stuff, man.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75815 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:16 pm to
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It is silly to think Saban can tell him to do something like that.


You keep saying tell. I said ask.

And Oregon may not have a roster crunch currently and might value that initial counter and 1/85 spot differently.

Personally, I see no reason for any school to offer Rodney, at any level. He was a nobody in high school and couldn't get on the field at two different (low level) JUCOs. And he's not even academically qualified at this point.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:19 pm to
We’re still trying to get to full 85 from the Helfrich day and there are a lot of kids to process.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:19 pm to
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This is some tin foil hat stuff, man.


Yeah, because nothing like that has ever happened before. And Saban has never tried to pull strings ever.

And he certainly hasn't pushed the angle of anywhere but LSU to certain Louisiana recruits.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:20 pm to
This wouldn’t actually be a favor to the elf. Can you imagine Oregon with Sophser in the middle and Thibodeaux on the edge in the PAC 12?
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:22 pm to
Depends, does Oregon have enough staffers to babysit Sopsher and make sure he actually puts forth effort? If not, then you could line Lawrence Taylor up next to him and he'll still be mediocre.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:22 pm to
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Yeah, because nothing like that has ever happened before.


When has one major college coach of school A called in a favor to another major college coach of school B to waste a scholarship that he wouldn't otherwise waste just to spite a division rival at school C, a school that school B is not going to play.

That is some flat Earth shite
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:22 pm to
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I thought that said Orgeron and thought, huh? He already did.


same
Posted by OppositeMan
Member since Apr 2018
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:24 pm to
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This wouldn’t actually be a favor to the elf. Can you imagine Oregon with Sophser in the middle and Thibodeaux on the edge in the PAC 12?


I've never seen you guys play defense before, so I have no choice but to use my imagination on this.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11184 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:25 pm to
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pushed the angle of anywhere but LSU to certain Louisiana recruits.

Pushing that angle and Jedi mind tricking his former employee into offering Rodney are two completely different things.

Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:25 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 4:13 pm
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75815 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:26 pm to
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That is some flat Earth shite


Not really. bisonduck just said they still don't even have a full 85 on scholarship. If they don't have a better player with an offer that could take that scholarship, their marginal cost is minimal.

It's much more stupid for LSU to offer Rodney, considering that taking him would preclude us from taking a better player with that initial counter spot and also pushing a player off the 85 man roster.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11184 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:27 pm to
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And Oregon may not have a roster crunch currently and might value that initial counter and 1/85 spot differently.

Then wouldn't it be reasonable to assume that Cristobal would make this decision on his own and not as a favor to Saban? It's not like this is completely out of the blue. I'm pretty sure these guys visited Oregon in December.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75815 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:28 pm to
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Pushing that angle and Jedi mind tricking his former employee into offering Rodney are two completely different things.


Why are you assuming he would have to trick him? Everyone values things differently.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16451 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:28 pm to
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I do. It's completely out of the realm of possibility that a major college head coach would use a scholarship on a guy that he feels isn't scholarship worthy based on the request of his former boss. Oregon is like a top 20 job nationally. You really think the head coach is going to do something to possibly jeopardize is job to help his old boss out? This is some tin foil hat stuff, man.

I'm not saying I believe it, but I think you are interpreting the "scenario" wrong. Saban calls Cristobal and says Ish is a good player and worth taking, but Bama doesn't have the room to take Rodney and tells Cristobal if he has room it's worth it. Bama saves the scholly and doesn't have to worry about Ish in the SEC/LSU.

Not really shady, just a smart tactical move by the leprechaun.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13349 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:29 pm to
Oregon went out and got 3 full time S&C coaches and a bunch of directors of personnel staff. That’s one of the big differences we’ve seen with Cristobal compared to the rest of the PAC.
This post was edited on 1/14/19 at 1:31 pm
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14043 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:30 pm to
If we sign the Amite players, does that cure SDS, or will it take a Tiger victory over Bama to heal the most severe cases.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75815 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:30 pm to
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Then wouldn't it be reasonable to assume that Cristobal would make this decision on his own and not as a favor to Saban?


Sure, that's definitely reasonable. That's why I said "possible" in my first post.

And even if he did come up with it on his own, the "don't go to LSU even if you don't come to us" angle will be pushed by Saban.

I mean, our own head coach used that tactic against us before.
This post was edited on 1/14/19 at 1:32 pm
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:31 pm to
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Not really. bisonduck just said they still don't even have a full 85 on scholarship. If they don't have a better player with an offer that could take that scholarship, their marginal cost is minimal.



So if that is indeed the case, wouldn't Occam's Razor tell us that Cristobal offered Rodney on his own and not because his former boss and now competition called him and asked him to do it as a favor?

A favor would mean he would not otherwise be doing it. I seriously doubt he changed his plan of who he was offering a scholarship to because his recruiting competition asked him to.

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