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re: Official: Benton offer pulled

Posted on 2/5/09 at 6:48 am to
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37776 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 6:48 am to
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So would you be OK is Ol Pete took a chance on a kid who took 6 years to graduate HS, over a kid with more potential who has his stuff in order?


I woudl not be okay if Pete took a chance on a kid who took 6 years to graduate HS, then pulled his schollie the night before when the kid showed big time interest and was likely coming.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37776 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 6:50 am to
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This is what everyone is missing: the bad guy is RR's dad for forcing Miles to choose between 2 good players


He did not force Miles to do anything. Miles made this classless move all on his own, then apparently lied about the reasons.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/5/09 at 6:52 am to
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He did not force Miles to do anything. Miles made this classless move all on his own, then apparently lied about the reasons.


What we should have done is buy both of their mommas a home, then we could have kept them both. What ya think Tangerine, good idea or not?
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
46297 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 6:53 am to
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He did not force Miles to do anything. Miles made this classless move all on his own, then apparently lied about the reasons.


quote:

LSUTANGERINE


Miles made a decision for the PROGRAM......now get over it.

We'll find out in 2-3 years if it was a good move or not....but he did what he thought was best.
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7700 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 6:55 am to
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He did not force Miles to do anything. Miles made this classless move all on his own, then apparently lied about the reasons.


What lies? The only report I have seen regarding Miles public comment is that the offer was withdrawn. No reason was stated. Is there some other statement as to ther reasons that Miles has given?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 6:57 am to
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Miles made this classless move all on his own, then apparently lied about the reasons.


when did he lie about the reasons?

i don't like it either, but we needed to get 1 guaranteed receiver and Benton isn't it.
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7713 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 7:02 am to
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I'm concerned about players blackmailing coaches and kids not wanting to play against competition on the same team.

This is the aspect that I think everyone is overlooking. Not saying that Randle is going to be a problem, but Miles needs to keep a close eye on this. Players or player's families dictating to the coaching staff who they will or will not play with can create locker room issues, and division among the team.

As for Benton, would have loved to have him for his one year, but he made his bed by failing to qualify and then taking visits after the loyalty LSU showed. Just wish Miles had pulled his scholarship when he decided to visit Auburn instead of 2 weeks later. Maybe Miles did it for the right reason, but the timing makes it look bad and you can bet Meyer and Saban will use it against him on the recruiting trail.
Posted by TigerFan11
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
555 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 7:04 am to
I was a college recruiter for 10 years and when the question came forward at the presser- my first reaction was NOT to reply out of respect for the athlete and the hs coach.

It would have been entirely easy for Miles to dance around that one and he intentionally chose NOT to. So, I agree with a few of the other posters..maybe he was fed up and felt he had more to lose by not being open (RR trust, etc) than throwing the kid under the bus. Benton just had too much baggage and probably needed to be somehwere else.
Posted by MyNadsitch
DFW
Member since Oct 2006
423 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 7:06 am to
He was screwed either way he went
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7700 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 7:07 am to
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you can bet Meyer and Saban will use it against him on the recruiting trail.


But then again, it isn't like they don't have their own issues.

From what one reads on the internet boards:

Meyer promises we will change our whole offense for you.

Saban will give you a scholarship as a freshman and take it away if he has someone better the next year.

All of the coaches have their supposed weaknesses.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37776 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 7:13 am to
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Miles made a decision for the PROGRAM......now get over it.


I don't doubt it was a program and business move. But it was also classless. You are the one who needs to get over the fact that it was classless. I am merely pointing it out.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37776 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 7:14 am to
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Is there some other statement as to ther reasons that Miles has given?


The first post in the stickie above where someone reported what he said.
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7713 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 7:14 am to
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But then again, it isn't like they don't have their own issues.

This is true ... but Meyer and Saban are the two most likely to use negative recruiting methods, regardless of their own lack of integrity. From all indications, Miles does not recruit that way (but I really don't know).
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61361 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 7:17 am to
You know, I think LSU should have just offered to provide both of them a couple of 100k work study programs AND bought both of their mommas new homes. Then we could have kept them both. OH, and throw in a couple of brand spanking new Cadillac Escalades just for good measure, and all paid for with those work study programs of course. That would have been much more classy, huh Tangerine?





This post was edited on 2/5/09 at 8:24 am
Posted by PineCone
Dallas, Tx
Member since Jan 2009
22 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 7:19 am to
Low class Les. Now, we are locked out of another school!
Posted by TigerFan11
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
555 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 7:19 am to
Major division 1 football recruiting is not for the faint of heart. Get off the fluffy comments-Les is a good guy- alot of shite happens on the trail- and only he knows why he decided to make that tactic public. Now, let's get on with SPRING practice!!
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60679 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 7:26 am to
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"I know what I say don't matter,"


I think I am on to why Benton had a tough time getting his grades

IF Miles pulled his offer out of the Randle camp comments, well that is just chickenshit. And it appears there is zero other explanation. The visit to AU is just an easy excuse.

Does RR get to call plays too? He dictated recruiting, why not?
Posted by chitownTiger
Member since Jan 2009
48 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 7:31 am to
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It would have been entirely easy for Miles to dance around that one and he intentionally chose NOT to. So, I agree with a few of the other posters..maybe he was fed up and felt he had more to lose by not being open (RR trust, etc) than throwing the kid under the bus. Benton just had too much baggage and probably needed to be somehwere else.


TigerFan11 nailed it, yeah it would have been easy for LM to dance around and sound PC but he had had enough of that and decided to end it and admit that the buck stopped with him. It's called leadership. Decision had to be made and he made the one that brought a good STUDENT athlete to LSU over a guy who may not stay eligible til the Spring of '10-don't know about y'all but I hope we're still playin' then if you know what I mean!! It's done, our HC made the call and is standing by it, I like it alot for the long term health of the program.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56623 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 7:32 am to
i'm sure in 3 pages it has been said, and i didn't read them, BUT IMO...i don't like how this went down either.

damage a bridge with bastrop to cater to a kids father who is scared from competition from a former teammate and supposed friend

i don't like it a whole lot
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 2/5/09 at 7:32 am to
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Miles made this classless move all on his own


miles made this best decision he could with the information he had.

not classless.
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