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New signing rules and attrition
Posted on 12/9/17 at 10:03 am
Posted on 12/9/17 at 10:03 am
Managing player retention is about to become the most important aspect of running a college program. If your program averages 3 juniors declaring for the draft every year, combined with 2 transfers per year, you will be carrying 80 scholarship players after a four year cycle. If you add to that equation 2 of your 25 signees every year are juco, which have only 2 years of eligibility, in a four year cycle you would then have 76 scholarship athletes. This could be exacerbated very quickly with grade risks, suspensions and injuries. It seems like inviting walk-ons that are good enough to put on scholarship as juniors or seniors is going to be a crucial element to the stability of talent in the program.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 10:35 am to SpencerRob
Agreed. Clearly the NCAA's attempt at parity. It will prevent the NFL talent rich schools from grabbing an extra 3-5 recruits each year to fill positions lost to the draft, and those kids will end up at 2nd tier programs.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 10:44 am to SpencerRob
Where are redshirts in that equation.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 10:55 am to mgdtiger
Every 5 redshirts would bump you +1 in your 4 year cycle number, so that would certainly help a bit in maintaining scholarship numbers, but of course they aren’t available to play, so you get even thinner on depth.
Posted on 12/9/17 at 12:01 pm to LaPride55
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Agreed. Clearly the NCAA's attempt at parity. It will prevent the NFL talent rich schools from grabbing an extra 3-5 recruits each year to fill positions lost to the draft, and those kids will end up at 2nd tier programs.
Actually, this could potentially help a school like LSU, who for the last several years have been in a last-minute battles with schools like Alabama and FSU. Alabama has been masterful at processing players. But, with this early signing period, these last-minute players may see the “process” before they commit. It could sway a player or two away from Bama and to LSU, instead.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 9:59 am to SpencerRob
I don’t think you are correctly evaluating the situation. Let’s take your scenario of 3 juniors declaring and 2 transfers every season. Then assume that you have 20 seniors that run out of eligibility (like LSU did this season and not all of those were even on scholarship), then all you have to do is sign a full class of 25 that year to get yourself back up to the full allotment of 85 scholarships. The juniors declare before the February signing period, so you can make up for them. The only time you would be in trouble
is if you have a rash of transfers after spring practice or in the summer. But more times than not, those that transfer are “processed” to make room to get below the 85 limit anyway.
I think the only way that you would really have issues is if you had a lot of seniors run out of eligibility, then a lot of juniors declare, and a lot of underclassman transfer. Then you might have some issues gettting to 85. But if you have that happen, then you probably have bigger issues to worry about.
I think staying below the 85 limit is more of a challenge than keeping 85.
is if you have a rash of transfers after spring practice or in the summer. But more times than not, those that transfer are “processed” to make room to get below the 85 limit anyway.
I think the only way that you would really have issues is if you had a lot of seniors run out of eligibility, then a lot of juniors declare, and a lot of underclassman transfer. Then you might have some issues gettting to 85. But if you have that happen, then you probably have bigger issues to worry about.
I think staying below the 85 limit is more of a challenge than keeping 85.
Posted on 12/10/17 at 11:29 am to Terry the Tiger
quote:Most of the time...yes, agreed. Transfers like we had this offseason aren't going to happen every year.
Terry the Tiger
If the NCAA would like to force the old "preferred walk-on" system that Nebraska used so well, I'm all for it. I think LSU and this staff pulling from LA & TX talent could do very well with it.
With attrition and the 25 hard limit, you can almost promise a walk-on a schollie without officially using a grey-shirt. And with this being NCAA wide and pretty damn firm, you won't have other schools thumbing their noses and undercutting you with 32 signees, grey shirts, and blue shirts.
You just better have excellent recruiters with good HS ties, very good evals, and an even better RC to put the pieces together.
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