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re: LSU better start getting in lead on NIL deals

Posted on 12/4/21 at 10:54 am to
Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
20268 posts
Posted on 12/4/21 at 10:54 am to
look ill just use ricks as an example. word on the street is he is transferring because other schools are promising him million dollar NIL deals in advance once he signs.

We're not losing guys because of staff uncertainty. It's the side hustling NIL pimps working in shadow doing the bidding of the big players in the NIL, recruiting, transfer portal game.

Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41910 posts
Posted on 12/4/21 at 11:23 am to
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You guys still have no clue what NIL is


lol

Yeah, I actually do. If you think rules for this aren't being bent/stretched, you're the one with no clue.

Get some businesses invested
Posted by lsunatchamp
Member since Feb 2009
2025 posts
Posted on 12/4/21 at 11:41 am to
Do you really think the players weren't getting paid before NIL? Think about Arik Gilbert. Now re-think your whole post
Posted by LSUFM
Flower Mound, TX
Member since Oct 2018
729 posts
Posted on 12/4/21 at 11:53 am to
Bring on Shaq as a consultant or even more if he would take it . He loves the place, wouldn’t necessarily have to be there all the time, could be near his son, and knows more about branding and how to promote than anyone in sports.

And it’s not like he’s doing anything other than some halftime shows for NBA games from a studio.
Posted by CBP3110
Member since Aug 2012
6517 posts
Posted on 12/4/21 at 2:12 pm to
Why did we just sign a deal with Ceasar’s and not use the shite out of that?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278398 posts
Posted on 12/4/21 at 2:24 pm to
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If you think rules for this aren't being bent/stretched, you're the one with no clue.


Cite some examples on both sides regarding how LSU is way behind other schools.

Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13022 posts
Posted on 12/4/21 at 2:43 pm to
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Their class is incredible


No better than anyone else’s in the top 3 have been in the past 10 years.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 12/4/21 at 2:45 pm to
Small state. Not great economically, limited reach economically, lack of big businesses, smaller alumni network than other SEC schools, etc. All this is hurting us. Need to funnel some serious cash into NIL and make their own marketing department in the AD.

We may see a big power shift in the NCAA soon due to this and transfer portal. Probably why USC went in raw on OU because they have the power of SOCAL behind them which can bring some insane NIL deals.
This post was edited on 12/4/21 at 2:47 pm
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13022 posts
Posted on 12/4/21 at 2:47 pm to
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falling behind the a&m's, bamas, georgias with that dinosaur mentality


No we’re not. Their classes are better because nobody wanted to come play for Orgeron. Firing him mid season wasn’t going to make them jump ship to LSU.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13022 posts
Posted on 12/4/21 at 2:48 pm to
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look ill just use ricks as an example. word on the street is he is transferring because other schools are promising him million dollar NIL deals in advance once he signs. We're not losing guys because of staff uncertainty. It's the side hustling NIL pimps working in shadow doing the bidding of the big players in the NIL, recruiting, transfer portal game.



That kid never wanted to be here to begin with. If we had been winning, he would have stayed, but losing because of Orgerons incompetence pushed this kid completely out the door.
This post was edited on 12/4/21 at 2:50 pm
Posted by alumni95
Member since Jun 2004
7587 posts
Posted on 12/4/21 at 8:43 pm to
There was the HUGE NILSU campaign (Olivia in Times Square, etc), but not much seems to have come out of the marketing ploy that I know about/
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41910 posts
Posted on 12/4/21 at 10:27 pm to
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Cite some examples on both sides regarding how LSU is way behind other schools.


Ricks left because he wasn't getting NIL love.

Explain A&M getting these La kids committed.

Other than a handful of players, haven't seen much happening with NIL (Thomas, MB, Stingley)
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
23046 posts
Posted on 12/4/21 at 10:37 pm to
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All I know is LSU needs to get with the program quick, because they will lose recruits.


They already are. LSU isn’t in the same stratosphere of what’s being offered by a division rival. LSU is selling opportunity with nil while others are selling guarantees.

There are some kids who will still come because it’s their dream to play at lsu and they want their family to see them play but others are taking the money.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278398 posts
Posted on 12/4/21 at 11:50 pm to
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Explain A&M getting these La kids committed.


Which kids

They’ve got like one recruit in 8 years that LSU even wanted before Moss committed there recently


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Other than a handful of players, haven't seen much happening with NIL


Back to the original question; do you even understand how NIL works?

And can you please cite some examples how LSU is behind other schools?


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Ricks left because he wasn't getting NIL love.


No he didn’t. Stop believing everything you read on the internet
Posted by Jdixon
Member since Aug 2014
2936 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 2:08 am to
I’m pretty sure NIL deals paid for recruiting are against the rules. The problem is these NIL deal rules differ from state to state. It really is confusing reading them but surely LSU gets a handle on NIL deals in Louisiana. Could’ve been a factor in landing Kelly.
Posted by Geauxsimon
Member since Aug 2017
241 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 5:58 am to
NIL money starts in the parking lots. Brennan had a $80k F250, Stingley had a $100k Cobra GT500, Elias had a $100k car as well. Trust me… the big time recruits get taken care of.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41910 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 9:28 am to
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They’ve got like one recruit in 8 years that LSU even wanted before Moss committed there recently



NIL wasn't around for 7 of those years

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No he didn’t. Stop believing everything you read on the internet


So, you know Ricks personally? He told you this? I can promise you Sting getting NIL love had something to do with his being unhappy.


This NIL is a new world, my point was we better be playing the game like the big boys are we'll start seeing problems.
Posted by MSG
B.R.
Member since Dec 2007
11215 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 9:32 am to
Which Louisiana kids?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278398 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 9:45 am to
Stingley came into the year as one of highest profile kids in the country.

There were rumors last year Ricks wanted to leave & NIL wasn’t even a thing yet. So no, I’m pretty sure he just never really adjusted to lsu.


And until you know what the WR6 at another school, who is a freshmen with 6 catches, is getting in NIL money, you really should stop comparing LSU to these schools
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278398 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 9:51 am to
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NIL money starts in the parking lots. Brennan had a $80k F250, Stingley had a $100k Cobra GT500, Elias had a $100k car as well. Trust me… the big time recruits get taken care of.


Exactly. The true NIL endorsements are just not going to be as big as people thought. Reserved for top players only. That’s why Stingley is getting Canes & other National brands.

I really think LSU fans think there are multiple kids at other schools openly getting deals like this.

The recruiting game is different. It can’t be open pay for play. It all has to be hush. So if LSU is doing something, it won’t be open. But you have to understand other teams are working under the same rules.

So no, A&M pulling Lev Moss does not tell me they are doing something special. He’s already commited twice to other schools outside the state. I’m pretty sure that’s a mixture of him wanting to leave & LSU being hesitant given his off field situation
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