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re: LSU Basketball recruiting 2012, updated 7-16-12, removed Tony Trocha
Posted on 7/11/12 at 12:36 am to Bubba Hotep
Posted on 7/11/12 at 12:36 am to Bubba Hotep
Said it was from Swede Trenkle, his juco coach.
Is it worth having him for a year and half?
I'm assuming Carmouche is the post-grad player Johnny spoke of...might be worth it to take Odoh because Carmouche doesn't give them the size they need. He can get in a few non-conference games in late December and at least give them presence inside in the SEC.
Edited for clarity.
Is it worth having him for a year and half?
I'm assuming Carmouche is the post-grad player Johnny spoke of...might be worth it to take Odoh because Carmouche doesn't give them the size they need. He can get in a few non-conference games in late December and at least give them presence inside in the SEC.
Edited for clarity.
This post was edited on 7/11/12 at 12:41 am
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Posted on 7/11/12 at 12:37 am to CourseyCorridor
They'd prob take Odoh
Posted on 7/11/12 at 9:39 am to Elleshoe
I haven't checked the rule, but I'm not aware of a JUCO basketball player coming in mid-year and being eligible to play. Not saying it can't be done, but I don't recall it happening. I will look into it.
Posted on 7/11/12 at 9:51 am to CourseyCorridor
Tigerbait reporting contradicting info, also from Swede Trenkle, that he is doing fine in JUCO and on pace to graduate. Also that LSU is keeping in touch.
Scout/TSD reporting Swede Trenkle saying Odoh will not graduate until December.
So which is it?
This continues to be one of the wierdest recruitments ever.
Scout/TSD reporting Swede Trenkle saying Odoh will not graduate until December.
So which is it?
This continues to be one of the wierdest recruitments ever.
This post was edited on 7/11/12 at 10:12 am
Posted on 7/11/12 at 10:48 am to Bubba Hotep
Bubba, I have seen it done, not infrequently, at the Sun Belt/SWAC/Southland tier of D-I.
If there's a rule against it, it would probably be an SEC rule.
If there's a rule against it, it would probably be an SEC rule.
Posted on 7/11/12 at 11:26 am to CourseyCorridor
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Bubba, I have seen it done, not infrequently, at the Sun Belt/SWAC/Southland tier of D-I.
If there's a rule against it, it would probably be an SEC rule.
If Tenn can get Stokes mid-year then as long as Odoh graduates, LSU should be able to get him mid-year.
Posted on 7/11/12 at 11:49 am to Coach D
Stokes was an early high school graduate. There is a rule against it for junior college players:
This is from the junior college transfer eligibility section of the NCAA handbook available at ncaa.org:
This is from the junior college transfer eligibility section of the NCAA handbook available at ncaa.org:
quote:
14.5.4.2.3 Baseball and Basketball—Midyear Enrollee. In baseball and basketball, a student who was not a qualifier (out of high school) (per Bylaw 14.3.1.1) who satisfies the provisions of Bylaw 14.5.4.2, but initially enrolls at a certifying institution as a full-time student after the conclusion of the institution’s first term of the academic year, shall not be eligible for competition until the ensuing academic year.
Posted on 7/11/12 at 12:17 pm to Bubba Hotep
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Evan Daniels ?@EvanDanielsFOX
Coaches involved w/ Tony Trocha may have to change their plans. Big 1st day surprise. This was kept tight lipped. Excited to see him play.
Posted on 7/11/12 at 12:24 pm to S
Lebron camp?
Posted on 7/11/12 at 12:31 pm to Bubba Hotep
I'm dumb because I'm not finding the handbook on the site. What does bylaw 14.3.1.1 state?
Posted on 7/11/12 at 12:35 pm to CourseyCorridor
So, there is no way Odoh will play at LSU next season if he comes in December. He could come and redshirt, and have two years left. I don't know if LSU coaches think highly enough of him for that.
I'm still wondering about the conflicting reports from his coach.
This post was edited on 7/11/12 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 7/11/12 at 12:37 pm to CourseyCorridor
It just gives some eligibility requirements. Nothing that would change the meaning.
Posted on 7/11/12 at 12:42 pm to Bubba Hotep
It could. It's one thing to be initially ineligible coming out of high school. It's another thing to be completely eligible coming out of junior college.
I can think of SEVERAL kids in both basketball and baseball I've seen come in at mid-year because they had to graduate from their junior college in the Fall to be eligible. Low-majors routinely take these guys (well...they aren't part of every class, but from time to time it happens). So either the rule is changed or there is a difference between a kid who is initially ineligible, but is eligible coming out of juco.
Trying to figure out which.
Edit: Never mind, I found the rule...
I can think of SEVERAL kids in both basketball and baseball I've seen come in at mid-year because they had to graduate from their junior college in the Fall to be eligible. Low-majors routinely take these guys (well...they aren't part of every class, but from time to time it happens). So either the rule is changed or there is a difference between a kid who is initially ineligible, but is eligible coming out of juco.
Trying to figure out which.
Edit: Never mind, I found the rule...
This post was edited on 7/11/12 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 7/11/12 at 12:56 pm to CourseyCorridor
NCAA Manual
It's on page 175. Prior to the part I cited, it describes players who were initially eligible out of high school, but chose to go to junior college. Those players are ineligible as mid-year transfers as well.
It's on page 175. Prior to the part I cited, it describes players who were initially eligible out of high school, but chose to go to junior college. Those players are ineligible as mid-year transfers as well.
Posted on 7/11/12 at 1:08 pm to Bubba Hotep
You are right (I found it in the manual...was looking in the wrong place).
It looks like the rule has had a series of revisions. So those mid-year transfers I used to see at the SLUs and Southerns are apparently no more.
If I recall right, and details are sketchy, Nate Lofton at SLU did this. Think he had to graduate from his juco in the fall and joined SLU in the middle of the season...I may be wrong. But he jumps to mind as one of those guys.
So I'm guessing the rule has changed in the last 5-6 years.
It looks like the rule has had a series of revisions. So those mid-year transfers I used to see at the SLUs and Southerns are apparently no more.
If I recall right, and details are sketchy, Nate Lofton at SLU did this. Think he had to graduate from his juco in the fall and joined SLU in the middle of the season...I may be wrong. But he jumps to mind as one of those guys.
So I'm guessing the rule has changed in the last 5-6 years.
Posted on 7/11/12 at 1:18 pm to S
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Adam Zagoria ?@AdamZagoria Just met 2013 big man Tony Trocha briefly at lunch here at @BreakoutBBall. Kentucky, Texas A&M among schools involved. Shd have story later.
Not sure if he's mistaken on the year or if Trocha is back to being a 2013 kid.
Posted on 7/11/12 at 2:10 pm to CourseyCorridor
This explains the abrupt rear turn by North Texas. They must have known something about his academic eligibility issues.
Posted on 7/11/12 at 2:44 pm to LayupKing
I'm sure Johnny Jones knew about his situation as well. LSU had nothing to lose by letting the situation play out. It's not like there were a bunch of bigs available that we passed on.
Posted on 7/11/12 at 2:56 pm to S
Oh, I see now. Trocha is at the Reebok Breakout Camp in Philly.
I don't know about his status for 2012. It would seem at this late date, it would be hard. However, in basketball recruiting, you never know.
Assuming Odoh is now out of the picture, LSU definitely has playing time to sell to Trocha.
I don't know about his status for 2012. It would seem at this late date, it would be hard. However, in basketball recruiting, you never know.
Assuming Odoh is now out of the picture, LSU definitely has playing time to sell to Trocha.
Posted on 7/11/12 at 3:38 pm to Bubba Hotep
New names continue to pop up on the transfer lists every day, but as of now, I see no available graduate transfers that could help LSU next year in the post.
If the Carmouche rumors are true, that's not a bad pickup. However, post depth is what is needed and that has yet to be addressed.
My first thought is that LSU will just go with the existing roster, but Johnny Jones keeps making comments about needing a post player and having plans to sign one. We will see. Summer is nearing its completion.
If the Carmouche rumors are true, that's not a bad pickup. However, post depth is what is needed and that has yet to be addressed.
My first thought is that LSU will just go with the existing roster, but Johnny Jones keeps making comments about needing a post player and having plans to sign one. We will see. Summer is nearing its completion.
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