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re: LSU Baseball 2022 (and beyond) Recruiting Thread (OLD THREAD, PLEASE STICKY NEW ONE)
Posted on 6/19/22 at 5:05 pm to ProjectP2294
Posted on 6/19/22 at 5:05 pm to ProjectP2294

Posted on 6/19/22 at 6:21 pm to 3rdPart Tiger
Seriously. I loaded up this page thinking there’s probably been some info/news since I last looked 24 hours ago and there’s only been 2 new comments. My anxiety is high with anticipation!
Posted on 6/19/22 at 7:16 pm to LesnarF5
Ethan Frey LSWA's 2022 Mr. Baseball
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a senior catcher/pitcher led the way, hitting .487 with 13 home runs, 64 RBIs and 28 runs scored. As a pitcher, he was 5-0 with 2 saves and a 0.77 ERA, with 43 strikeouts in 27 innings pitched.
Posted on 6/20/22 at 8:20 am to LesnarF5
This is going to let you know how bored I am. While I was waiting on the two incoming booms LSUHero promised, I found a top 500 list from 2021.
#18 3B Tommy White
#32 P Max Debiec
#36 Thatcher Hurd
#83 Lansville
#103 Leto
#155 G. Taylor
#161 G Fontenot
#187 Simon
#213 Pearson
#314 Janzen Kiesel
#319 Applebey
#332 Dutton
#376 Priester
#383 Holt
#419 Jack Walker
As pointed out, I'm pretty good at convincing myself of stuff but I will point out something about Hurd and Debeic. LSU is an unique situation as far as what starting pitching LSU has for next year or lack thereof. I don't know the other teams well enough to know what they are bringing back but most of the top teams probably have more SP potential than us already on there rosters. That has to be appealing to Hurd and Debeic.
#18 3B Tommy White
#32 P Max Debiec
#36 Thatcher Hurd
#83 Lansville
#103 Leto
#155 G. Taylor
#161 G Fontenot
#187 Simon
#213 Pearson
#314 Janzen Kiesel
#319 Applebey
#332 Dutton
#376 Priester
#383 Holt
#419 Jack Walker
As pointed out, I'm pretty good at convincing myself of stuff but I will point out something about Hurd and Debeic. LSU is an unique situation as far as what starting pitching LSU has for next year or lack thereof. I don't know the other teams well enough to know what they are bringing back but most of the top teams probably have more SP potential than us already on there rosters. That has to be appealing to Hurd and Debeic.
Posted on 6/20/22 at 8:31 am to N2daWild
I also think, with the right coaching (and the right attitude from the players), that Lansville, Taylor, and Fontenot could develop.
Bring in a couple SP candidates and next year could be special.
Bring in a couple SP candidates and next year could be special.
Posted on 6/20/22 at 8:34 am to N2daWild
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#32 P Max Debiec
Wonder how Kelly getting the job affects his portal decision.
Posted on 6/20/22 at 8:37 am to 3rdPart Tiger
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Wonder how Kelly getting the job affects his portal decision.
That thought occurred to me as well. For you guys unaware Debeic plays for Washington.
Posted on 6/20/22 at 8:39 am to N2daWild
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Max Debiec from Washington is another one we've been on for a while, he just hit the portal today as well. Big time arm coming off TJ. From a draft profile standpoint, he's the closest thing to Thatcher Hurd in the portal (as far as draft profile out of high school).
Project's writeup on Debiec from earlier in the thread.
Posted on 6/20/22 at 8:41 am to TravisBRTiger
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Bring in a couple SP candidates and next year could be special.
I actually think it is going to be hard for a pitcher to make the team next year. I'm expecting some surprising attrition next year. Depth won't be a problem but we still have to land a couple of Aces, either in our class or the portal.
Posted on 6/20/22 at 9:07 am to N2daWild
Portal arm to monitor: rembisch from farliegh Dickinson.
Also, Taylor and Edwards look like they’re getting stretched out in the Cape.
Also, Taylor and Edwards look like they’re getting stretched out in the Cape.
Posted on 6/20/22 at 9:37 am to ProjectP2294
John "Will" Rizzo maybe looks like another one to keep an eye on. Looks like he must have redshirted at A&M this season.
Posted on 6/20/22 at 10:25 am to BayTiger13
I generally lurk on this thread and appreciate everyone's input. Spent some time late last week getting to know the class. Before doing so, I thought the "we'd be lucky to get 7 of the top 14" take was overly pessimistic just based on history. After digging into it, I think expecting half is too optimistic. This class is absolutely stacked.
13 of the top 14 recruits are ranked in the top 100 in at least one major ranking. Historically, the vast majority of top 100 guys do not make it to school. Since 2014, we've gotten 6 mlb.com top 100 guys on campus (Crews, Mo Hampton, Jaden Hill, Daniel Cabrera, Cole McKay, Mac Marshall). The 100-200 guys have a better shot, but it is still generally a coinflip.
My summary is below. If Kling sticks with foregoing the draft, he'd be a big get. I thought we had a shot at Jared Jones, but he just had a great combine. It will be interesting to see how the draft, transfer portal, coaching hires, etc. play out over then next month.

13 of the top 14 recruits are ranked in the top 100 in at least one major ranking. Historically, the vast majority of top 100 guys do not make it to school. Since 2014, we've gotten 6 mlb.com top 100 guys on campus (Crews, Mo Hampton, Jaden Hill, Daniel Cabrera, Cole McKay, Mac Marshall). The 100-200 guys have a better shot, but it is still generally a coinflip.
My summary is below. If Kling sticks with foregoing the draft, he'd be a big get. I thought we had a shot at Jared Jones, but he just had a great combine. It will be interesting to see how the draft, transfer portal, coaching hires, etc. play out over then next month.

Posted on 6/20/22 at 10:43 am to JustinTI
That’s pretty fair, but I still think we end up pretty good overall. Of the top 100 guys, someone will have to really like Kling or Kennedy to get them. They seem pretty set to come to college, I don’t think a third round slot will get them. Guidry is a pretty projectable guy who doesn’t seem to have too much presently for someone to pick him up in the second imo. Not sure what his number is, but I definitely feel like he could benefit a good bit to go to college.
Noot, Neal and Romero are probably 3 guys we shouldn’t feel great about. Out of state kids in the top 3 round projection who don’t seem overly adamant about their commitment usually don’t end up well for us. Shores is another who is gaining some steam and is probably in the same category as the other 3. Mis is going to go pretty high with him cruising at 100 mph and still being built like a skeleton. Someone will take a ch ace on him and it probably doesn’t make sense to go to school for 1 more year.
The biggest factor that we really have no clue about, is obviously NIL. It seems overblown at this point, but we do occasionally get a sense of what some guys are making, so it can obviously be pretty impactful. If we were in the running for Ahuna, who got 200k for 1 year, it will be interesting to see what a highly ranked freshman can get. Some guys like Romero, who is already very marketable, could potentially get a nice check to go to school, then still have a signing bonus in 3 years. This is definitely a big wait and see thing.
Noot, Neal and Romero are probably 3 guys we shouldn’t feel great about. Out of state kids in the top 3 round projection who don’t seem overly adamant about their commitment usually don’t end up well for us. Shores is another who is gaining some steam and is probably in the same category as the other 3. Mis is going to go pretty high with him cruising at 100 mph and still being built like a skeleton. Someone will take a ch ace on him and it probably doesn’t make sense to go to school for 1 more year.
The biggest factor that we really have no clue about, is obviously NIL. It seems overblown at this point, but we do occasionally get a sense of what some guys are making, so it can obviously be pretty impactful. If we were in the running for Ahuna, who got 200k for 1 year, it will be interesting to see what a highly ranked freshman can get. Some guys like Romero, who is already very marketable, could potentially get a nice check to go to school, then still have a signing bonus in 3 years. This is definitely a big wait and see thing.
Posted on 6/20/22 at 10:52 am to JustinTI
I'm with you. I think (position player wise) if we snag Kling, Guidry, Paul, Ruddell, and Frey it's a win. All of those kids can play. Then you hope for one of Jones/Neal as lagniappe.
I think this pitching class is so deep. They've been getting a lot of love lately but Herring and Moffett were awesome this year and I think they will be on campus from what you see on twitter (obviously never an automatic). You get those two and Kennedy + Ackenhausen, Siravo, Bucknam, Bronzini, and then you pray for one of Noot/Shores.
I think this pitching class is so deep. They've been getting a lot of love lately but Herring and Moffett were awesome this year and I think they will be on campus from what you see on twitter (obviously never an automatic). You get those two and Kennedy + Ackenhausen, Siravo, Bucknam, Bronzini, and then you pray for one of Noot/Shores.
This post was edited on 6/20/22 at 10:55 am
Posted on 6/20/22 at 11:02 am to bugafor6
I don't think there is enough money in college baseball for NIL to compete with the first 3 rounds of the MLB. If they choose to go to college it is because they want to go to college and they are hoping they will improve their draft value. NIL doesn't hurt but it isn't much of a factor. Leave NIL money for the portal.
I'm hoping Johnson can be a factor in convincing some of these bordeline guys to get to campus.
I'm hoping Johnson can be a factor in convincing some of these bordeline guys to get to campus.
Posted on 6/20/22 at 11:05 am to ccarrone0313
I'm always the optimist but that is a very realistic view.
Posted on 6/20/22 at 11:07 am to N2daWild
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I don't think there is enough money in college baseball for NIL to compete with the first 3 rounds of the MLB
Which they don’t need to… again, curious to know what kind of deals are being offered to high school kids, when a 1 year transfer is getting offered 200k. Hypothetically, if you can give someone 500k over 3 years, it makes turning down a 1 mill signing bonus at 18 (that can be revisited in 3 years) much more fiscally revisited. Clearly, nobody is offering 1 mil for a baseball recruit. It is still a much different conversation than offering someone a 50% scholarship with no additional possibility of income.
Posted on 6/20/22 at 11:19 am to bugafor6
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Which they don’t need to
I agree. Also agree that it's highly unlikely baseball players will get NIL deals matching top 3 round money. That said, it is not an either or situation. If you go to college and you take some NIL money, you can still get drafted/the signing bonus a couple years later. There's more risk, as the signing bonus could improve or go down based on your performance.
Another factor that could come into play is scholarship changes. There's a lot of talk that shcolarship limits will be up to each conference and equivalent/partial scholarships may be eliminated. This is something that is LONG overdue, and I hope happens.
That combination of factors makes coming to school on full scholarship with say $100k to spend over three years, skipping some time in the minors, and making substantial progress to a degree a compelling option if you think you are not getting what you deserve as a potential draft pick (even if in the $1MM range).
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