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Losing Corey Raymond sucks but…

Posted on 12/9/21 at 6:55 am
Posted by TigerMonkey7
Member since Jul 2021
3145 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 6:55 am
Kelly has done a good job with his staff so far. He has 2 really good recruiters with Louisiana ties in Frank Wilson and Brad Davis. Brian Polian can recruit really good TE’s and the west coast. Kerry Cooks is also a good recruiter who has Texas ties and can also recruit Oklahoma/Arizona. We are going to be alright, BK knows what he his doing.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
16894 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:04 am to
I agree.

Would love coordinators that are strong recruiters, especially with Texas and Florida experience.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
450988 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:08 am to
quote:

Kerry Cooks is also a good recruiter

You need to provide documentation for this

Most everyone is hoping Cooks is an analyst and is on the verge of melting down if he's an on-field coach. He's TERRIBLE at coaching

Cooks would be a MASSIVE downgrade from Raymond from all angles
Posted by TigerMonkey7
Member since Jul 2021
3145 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:11 am to
Go look at his commit list on 247. It’s not Corey Raymond level but he has landed some good recruits
Posted by 3rdRowTailgater
Tulsa
Member since Jul 2006
18798 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:19 am to
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Kerry Cooks is also a good recruiter who has Texas ties and can also recruit Oklahoma

Landing good OK recruits at OU isn't anything special. There's only a handful of top OK recruits each year and damn near everyone grew up dreaming of being at OU.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
53559 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:23 am to
It's very underwhelming if Cooks is named the DB coach. But the fact that he hasn't been named yet gives me hope
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
5275 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:23 am to
quote:

He's TERRIBLE at coaching


gonna quote someone else on this board and say...you need to provide documentation.

quote:

Cooks would be a MASSIVE downgrade from Raymond from all angles

don't remember reading anyone stating this. not sure where this came from. of course that is a downgrade....IF Cooks is coaching CBs. If not, there is nothing to worry about.
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:25 am to
The fact he wasn’t named DB coach should be a sign
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
53559 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:28 am to
That's what I am thinking as well. Seems telling and if he was that they would name him by today.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
27791 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:29 am to
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Cooks would be a MASSIVE downgrade from Raymond from all angles


Ahh, good. You found something new to melt over since Woody didn’t botch the coaching search and didn’t hire Stoops.

Maybe we can just let it all play out…again.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
450988 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:40 am to
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you need to provide documentation.



2016: 279 YPG (10th worst in the country)

2017: 241 YPG

2018: 291 YPG (2nd worst in the country)

Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
31274 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:40 am to
He really hasn't.

Why has he been an analyst the last 2 years?
Got fired from texas tech.

I love how people are trying to spin this.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
450988 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:41 am to
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to melt

Y'all have no idea what this word means anymore

quote:

since Woody didn’t botch the coaching search and didn’t hire Stoops.

Stoops would have been terrible. Are you supporting Mark Stoops as a good hire at LSU or something?
Posted by TigerMonkey7
Member since Jul 2021
3145 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:43 am to
Position coaches can only do so much when the DC sucks
Posted by HighRoller
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
4977 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:44 am to
You should check out LSU’s numbers the last couple of years
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
450988 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:47 am to
quote:

Position coaches can only do so much when the DC sucks

He's failed under multiple DCs and I don't know if he's ever had a really good year coaching DBs

Why has he been unable to get a coaching job the past 2 years? He's been fired at 2 Big12 schools back to back and only been given analyst jobs since.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
44084 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:47 am to
quote:

Cooks would be a MASSIVE downgrade from Raymond from all angles


Depends on who our DC is honestly
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
31274 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 8:07 am to
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The fact he wasn’t named DB coach should be a sign


Really? You still fighting the good fight?

He isn't going to be an analyst.
This post was edited on 12/9/21 at 8:08 am
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
31274 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 8:09 am to
quote:

Position coaches can only do so much when the DC sucks



You sure about that? The entire coaching board told me a cornerbacks coach(raymond) was responsible for the 2 down years at lsu.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
27791 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 8:13 am to
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Stoops would have been terrible. Are you supporting Mark Stoops as a good hire at LSU or something?


No. Try to keep up.

I’m talking about your protracted “I’m too intelligent to melt” melt a few days before the hire. You basically penned a novel that one of the few options left on the board was Stoops, meaning that Woody had obviously botched the coaching search. You were convinced that the rumors of interest in him meant he was a legitimate candidate.

But you were obviously wrong. The rumors around this entire transition have all been bullshite. Woody did his job and we got a coach who is vastly superior to any of the names you were throwing around, especially fricking Stoops.

As for not knowing what melting is, just because you throw some vaguely logical supposition around, that doesn’t mean it’s not a melt. When you ramble on for hours complaining about a situation that’s completely imaginary, like it or not, you’re still melting.

No one has been right about anything before it happened to this point. This process is pretty much airtight for once, which is a good thing. Just let it all play out. Then bitch and moan if there’s a legitimate reason to when it’s done.
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