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re: Longhorn Network helped UT land Torshiro Davis?
Posted on 2/7/12 at 8:40 pm to Cadello
Posted on 2/7/12 at 8:40 pm to Cadello
Wow, all the freaking whining in this board, someone could accidentally mistake this for the texasags board. When shite like this happens to other teams and last minute flip flopping from recruits to LSU, there is no problem. (perilloux). If you really believe that recruiting is not a battle ground, then you should try another sport. Texas didn't hush this kid (Davis). You guys lost your top three players in the state. Contrary to your popular belief, baton rouge is not the premier program in the country. There are plenty out there with better programs, facilities, cities and most definitely academics. And not being able to keep the top kids in your state, proves this! I do like the tigers but I am a longhorn. Just a little confused with the thinkng some days on this board.
HOOK'EM
HOOK'EM
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Posted on 2/7/12 at 8:45 pm to Txsbigeasy1
We didn't have time to get another recruit when perilloux switched on signing day! He was a strong verbal also.
This post was edited on 2/7/12 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 2/7/12 at 8:49 pm to Txsbigeasy1
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Contrary to your popular belief, baton rouge is not the premier program in the country.
It's sure as hell better than Texas.
Posted on 2/7/12 at 8:51 pm to Chicken
quote:
wait until I post my Landon Collins' recruitment tidbit...will put it in another thread.
There was nothing illegal about Landon's recruitment.
Posted on 2/7/12 at 9:58 pm to Txsbigeasy1
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When shite like this happens to other teams and last minute flip flopping from recruits to LSU, there is no problem. (perilloux).
That's where you are wrong teasip, a lot of us, while happy to get RP, did not like the way that went down.
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There are plenty out there with better programs, facilities, cities and most definitely academics. And not being able to keep the top kids in your state, proves this!
Really, so what does it say when we land Texas kids like Thompson, Shepard, Loston, Brokers? Go flame the aggie boards.
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We didn't have time to get another recruit when perilloux switched on signing day! He was a strong verbal also
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This post was edited on 2/7/12 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 2/7/12 at 10:48 pm to Chicken
quote:
Thoughts?
I dont understand the 'paper thin' depth. If you are too insecure about your abilities to compete and win a starting job, how are you going to help your team win championships anyway. It will be filled with chumps like you.
ANY team that makes a recruit pledge to be quiet is garbage(LSU included) I think if you cant stand the pressure to stand by your commitment, you dont have the mental make up to live away from home and contribute anyway.
Good luck to him, he will need it. We are fine.
Posted on 2/7/12 at 10:48 pm to Txsbigeasy1
Davis was hushed by Texas. The Texas sites have already outed it. I read them daily so the wool can't be pulled over my eyes. Does it matter the reasons they hushed him? No. It only matters that they hushed him. The excuse is because of backlash but the part about Davis having to live in Shreveport for another 4 months seems to have gone over the heads of the braniacs that came up with that. The real reasons are twofold. First, The Longhorns were scared we would use "SEC shenanigans" in their words. Second, Texas has started a smear campaign of LSU because they feel threatened. It's widely known that the Longhorn staff uses the recruiting sites to put out info, false or otherwise, to discredit certain schools and people. Since signing day I have seen no less than 3 LSU smear articles or blurbs on Longhorn sites. Not to say all of it came down as an order from the Texas staff but you can bet it started with them. There a ton of kids in Texas in the next 4-5 years that are legitimate major football prospects that are Katrina transplants. The smear campaign is to muddy the LSU image in those kids minds and give them a leg up. It won't work the way they intend it to because LSU is too successful but it is a brilliant strategy. Problem is it's not so brilliant that it couldn't be figured out. Hopefully the LSU staff has been put on notice of the campaign by Texas.
LSU and it's fans are too good to be fooled by the Texas "power and mystique". Good plan but it's been sniffed out. No wool to pull over our eyes. Davis is a good win for Texas no matter the reasons but to deny the 3rd party involvement is just arrogant and naive. Doesn't mean the Texas staff broke rules becuase it doesn't appear they did but Holmes was basically playing as an agent for Texas without being compensated. Yet. We know about him now so he'll be less effective. It's kind of like Flenory and Lyles. Texas did all they could(and still are) to stop them but they were/are still a thorn in Texas' side. TJ was just the latest. There are more in the pipeline.
LSU and it's fans are too good to be fooled by the Texas "power and mystique". Good plan but it's been sniffed out. No wool to pull over our eyes. Davis is a good win for Texas no matter the reasons but to deny the 3rd party involvement is just arrogant and naive. Doesn't mean the Texas staff broke rules becuase it doesn't appear they did but Holmes was basically playing as an agent for Texas without being compensated. Yet. We know about him now so he'll be less effective. It's kind of like Flenory and Lyles. Texas did all they could(and still are) to stop them but they were/are still a thorn in Texas' side. TJ was just the latest. There are more in the pipeline.
Posted on 2/7/12 at 10:55 pm to Txsbigeasy1
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There are plenty out there with better programs, facilities, cities and most definitely academics
UT - Austin does not fit any of the criteria ... SO?
Posted on 2/7/12 at 10:59 pm to LaBornNRaised
Are you really going to argue that LSU has better academics than Texas? Or that BR > Austin? I'm just going to assume you are purposely trolling him.
This post was edited on 2/7/12 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 2/7/12 at 11:07 pm to NOSA
That's the part I could easily understand. If Davis had commited to Texas for the academics,city and facilities then it would be much easier to understand and accept. No question they are among the elite in those categories(academics aside). Even if he commited soley for Bo Davis and Manny Diaz I would completely get it. He just chose to handle things the wrong way. He defintely came from his mothers womb. They're two peas in a pod. Can't fault a kid for following what his mother taught him.
Posted on 2/7/12 at 11:15 pm to Chicken
He'll be at home watching LSU in BCS bowl game year after year while his texas team goes to lower tied bowl games. 
Posted on 2/8/12 at 5:53 am to bulldog95
Recruiting high school kid for college play is big business. Literally millions of dollars, jobs, careers are on the line. Intrigue, deceit, downright lies are all part of it. There are those who play strictly by the rules, and there are those who stretch rules to the danger zone, and of course there are those who choose to ignore the rules. You start with the best talent and your chances of being the best team are greatly improved. If anything is surprising in this mix is that it doesn't happen more often. Social media and TV ala ESPN have made us more aware but its been going on forever.
Posted on 2/8/12 at 8:45 am to Chicken
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Thoughts?
With Manship and the long relationship LSU has had with WBRZ, the Advocate, and all of the various outlets (including Tigervision), there's literally NO reason I can think of why we don't do something similar - a bunch of these kids with reasonable expectations look at media opportunities as attractive alternatives should they have a short or non-existent professional career.
Posted on 2/8/12 at 9:06 am to Txsbigeasy1
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Wow, all the freaking whining in this board, someone could accidentally mistake this for the texasags board. When shite like this happens to other teams and last minute flip flopping from recruits to LSU, there is no problem. (perilloux). If you really believe that recruiting is not a battle ground, then you should try another sport. Texas didn't hush this kid (Davis). You guys lost your top three players in the state. Contrary to your popular belief, baton rouge is not the premier program in the country. There are plenty out there with better programs, facilities, cities and most definitely academics. And not being able to keep the top kids in your state, proves this! I do like the tigers but I am a longhorn. Just a little confused with the thinkng some days on this board.
HOOK'EM
well, it's one of them.
a lot of us didn't like how r.p. handled himself either. i would have traded colt for r.p. everyday and twice on sunday.
you have a great school. I just know it's attributes had nothing to do with davis choosing it.
lastly, duval isn't considered to be the third best player in this state by many people. however, since rivals must be absolute in their evaluations, i guess you guy's have underachieved.
Posted on 2/8/12 at 9:24 am to lsufanva
LSUfanVA,
I enjoy reading your posts but you definitely lost me with this one...c'mon, man! That's some major conspiracy theory shite right there! A Texas led LSU smear campaign? After the championship game smothering from Bama, your own fans, players, media, etc. did enough to let others just sit back and watch.
I'm sure you realize that not every Katrina transplant was destined to become a big time football prospect. I'm sure you realize that the oldest of the kids/prospects
who left LA due to Katrina were 10-11 yrs old at the time...nearly half their life has been spent living in TX, yet the University of Texas
needs to run a smear campaign to hope to keep them away from LSU? Give me a freakin break!
As for Torshiro, his former coach is someone that he obviously trusts...but the main factor in his recruitment was Bo Davis. Coach Davis was friends
with the ex-coach who may have helped when being introduced to Torshiro, but to think that 2 years later he was needed to get TD to Texas is foolish.
If Bo Davis was still at Bama, not only would you have probably lost your top 3 recruits from LA but I think they may all be playing for the Tide.
Here's a link to the transcript of a phone conversation between Torshiro, his mom, and Eric Nahlin(Tipsy Gypsie)an Inside Texas contributor.
Link
As long as they continue to attempt to influence kids for their own interests, bums like Lyles and Flenory will always be under the spotlight...the thing is some kids heed the warning to stay clear of them while others don't. It seems TJ didn't and that was one reason that we parted ways and never attempted to regain his commitment. Coach Samples at Skyline barred Flenory and others like him from the campus, but after the season and after hours he can't be expected to know who his players are dealing with...TJ's teammate Jinkens steered clear and is a Longhorn. It's no coincidence that kids Flenory influences end up visiting or committing to his former University of New Hampshire OC Chip Kelly. For the latest Flenory shenanigans note how Texas plays the recruitment of A'Shawn Robinson...if we don't offer and seem to back off his trail I think that will be telling.
P.S. If the Texas smear campaign helped convince Miles and Co. to not even offer Ishmael Wilson, then yes, it is indeed brilliant
I enjoy reading your posts but you definitely lost me with this one...c'mon, man! That's some major conspiracy theory shite right there! A Texas led LSU smear campaign? After the championship game smothering from Bama, your own fans, players, media, etc. did enough to let others just sit back and watch.
I'm sure you realize that not every Katrina transplant was destined to become a big time football prospect. I'm sure you realize that the oldest of the kids/prospects
who left LA due to Katrina were 10-11 yrs old at the time...nearly half their life has been spent living in TX, yet the University of Texas
needs to run a smear campaign to hope to keep them away from LSU? Give me a freakin break!
As for Torshiro, his former coach is someone that he obviously trusts...but the main factor in his recruitment was Bo Davis. Coach Davis was friends
with the ex-coach who may have helped when being introduced to Torshiro, but to think that 2 years later he was needed to get TD to Texas is foolish.
If Bo Davis was still at Bama, not only would you have probably lost your top 3 recruits from LA but I think they may all be playing for the Tide.
Here's a link to the transcript of a phone conversation between Torshiro, his mom, and Eric Nahlin(Tipsy Gypsie)an Inside Texas contributor.
Link
As long as they continue to attempt to influence kids for their own interests, bums like Lyles and Flenory will always be under the spotlight...the thing is some kids heed the warning to stay clear of them while others don't. It seems TJ didn't and that was one reason that we parted ways and never attempted to regain his commitment. Coach Samples at Skyline barred Flenory and others like him from the campus, but after the season and after hours he can't be expected to know who his players are dealing with...TJ's teammate Jinkens steered clear and is a Longhorn. It's no coincidence that kids Flenory influences end up visiting or committing to his former University of New Hampshire OC Chip Kelly. For the latest Flenory shenanigans note how Texas plays the recruitment of A'Shawn Robinson...if we don't offer and seem to back off his trail I think that will be telling.
P.S. If the Texas smear campaign helped convince Miles and Co. to not even offer Ishmael Wilson, then yes, it is indeed brilliant
This post was edited on 2/8/12 at 9:46 am
Posted on 2/8/12 at 10:30 am to Chicken
...To-ho misled ( "lied" ) to the LSU coaches, and it cost them (LSU) an opportunity to make adjustments in their recruiting .. UT pressured him to keep LSU "on the string" because it is beneficial to UT ( or any other program ) to prevent or reduce the competition's ability or opportunity to get good players ...yeah its bush league, but if teams can get away with it many of them will do it... To-Ho is an accomplice at the least, and a jerk at the worst .... I go with the worst ... 
Posted on 2/8/12 at 10:37 am to GeauxGus
"... I don't care why he went to UT. Its a great school, great football program, he likes Austin, he's chasing poon, it doesn't matter. Its the way he did the switch, when LSU couldn't go after someone else that sucks and its disrespectful..."
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...oh yeah , and this ... X 100
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...oh yeah , and this ... X 100
Posted on 2/8/12 at 11:08 am to Chicken
My thoughts are;
If Texas is where he wants to be, then thats where he needs to be. LSU will be fine without him..... Once the season starts nobody will remember his name here at LSU, and Rasco and Co. will have the DE spotlight filled up for the next couple of years!
If Texas is where he wants to be, then thats where he needs to be. LSU will be fine without him..... Once the season starts nobody will remember his name here at LSU, and Rasco and Co. will have the DE spotlight filled up for the next couple of years!
Posted on 2/8/12 at 4:25 pm to lake chuck fan
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This post was edited on 2/8/12 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 2/8/12 at 8:26 pm to Txsbigeasy1
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5. Texas will still be in a mid major bowl next year and the Tigers will be looking at Crystal!
This!!
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Txsbigeasy1
TX will be 7-6 and To-Ho will be stoked.
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