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Is the NCAA killing college football?
Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:30 am
Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:30 am
now that mark emmert (sp) is in charge it seems that college football has reached epic levels of cheating. it seems that since auburn was allowed to pay cam newtons father (since Cam was unaware of it) and they added unequal stipends the bidding wars have greatly escalated. add "selective" rules enforcement and we end up with what seems like massive "bidding wars" for players.
a decade from now or so and they will have to separate programs into the "semi-pro" level and the amateur level.
a decade from now or so and they will have to separate programs into the "semi-pro" level and the amateur level.
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:49 am to LSU GrandDad
Personally I thing the power five in football should separate from the NCAA and start their own league. Make it a true minor league. It’s probably not this simple but they could pay players if they want but put some type of cap on it that is a certain percentage less than what the NFL has that year or smarter people than me can figure something out. You probably would lose some teams along the way that would have to drop down to the NCAA if they can’t afford to play up. The NCAA is great for organizing and controlling the lesser sports but big time football and maybe even basketball have just become too big and make too much money for them to control.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 10:03 am to geauxtigers33
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The NCAA is great for organizing and controlling the lesser sports but big time football and maybe even basketball have just become too big and make too much money for them to control.
you may be right about this. but I think it would be a sad day if we give up and just be a semi pro league. I don't think some teams would follow the rules of a new organization either and the others would have to follow suit just to survive. the problem is and always has been the boosters. paying the players isn't going to rein them in. the top players will still want more than the other players.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 10:48 am to LSU GrandDad
You must be ten. Cheating is nowhere near as bad as it was 30,40 years ago. And prior to that.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 12:11 pm to Darius David
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You must be ten.
no, i'm a little older than that. quote:
Cheating is nowhere near as bad as it was 30,40 years ago. And prior to that.
I hope you are correct. I don't think we can prove it either way. as far as I know, the cheating in the old days was indeed prevalent but seemingly small potatoes compared to today. guys got cars, didn't have to pay their restaurant tabs and got the $100 handshakes after good games plus many got summer "jobs" from boosters but I sure don't recall the type of money changing hands that we "hear about" these days. I hear that there are HS coaches getting paid, handlers getting paid, parents getting paid, etc. but I have no proof and am not naïve.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 12:22 pm to LSU GrandDad
Posted on 2/7/19 at 12:50 pm to GeauxtigersMs36
watched this movie last week. as dated as it is, i have a feeling its extremely accurate
Posted on 2/7/19 at 1:06 pm to LSU GrandDad
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they added unequal stipends
The NCAA doesn't pay stipends. Stipends are paid by the institutions and are based on each school's publicly published total cost of attendance.
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 2/7/19 at 1:15 pm to Evolved Simian
Yeah - but.
Schools that inflate their stated "Room / Board" and then give the general admission students a "scholarship" with a reduced rate for said "Room / Board" can then use the inflated number as a benchmark for the "stipend".
If bama's R&B is published as $8K a year, that is what they use as a stipend to pay the athletes. Not illegal, but certainly not equal to other institutions. That may be the OP's point about unequal stipends.
It ain't NASCAR where everything is equal. Allegedly.
Schools that inflate their stated "Room / Board" and then give the general admission students a "scholarship" with a reduced rate for said "Room / Board" can then use the inflated number as a benchmark for the "stipend".
If bama's R&B is published as $8K a year, that is what they use as a stipend to pay the athletes. Not illegal, but certainly not equal to other institutions. That may be the OP's point about unequal stipends.
It ain't NASCAR where everything is equal. Allegedly.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 1:19 pm to LSU GrandDad
Emmert wants this which is why he's purposely allowing some schools to cheat and nailing others. He sees more money in advertising and sponsorship.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 1:38 pm to RoaringTiger33
If you pay the boys you gotta pay the girls. Title nine, remember. That’s feds not ncaa
Posted on 2/7/19 at 1:39 pm to LSU GrandDad
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a decade from now or so and they will have to separate programs into the "semi-pro" level and the amateur level.
Which one of those categories do you think LSU would fall into?
Posted on 2/7/19 at 1:58 pm to mallardhank
When it gets to that point they find a way around it. Corporate law and such.
The rules could easily be managed just like the pro leagues do with commissioners.
2 biggest issues, how do the football programs separate money from the schools and how does the school part factor in. If no education then I'd think the college names would be disallowed or paid to use.
Second is the money caps. These teams make major money and the tv deal would make them more but we aren't talking NFL type money. It would be interesting but not impossible.
I believe the day is coming and not that long from now. Decade or so maybe.
The rules could easily be managed just like the pro leagues do with commissioners.
2 biggest issues, how do the football programs separate money from the schools and how does the school part factor in. If no education then I'd think the college names would be disallowed or paid to use.
Second is the money caps. These teams make major money and the tv deal would make them more but we aren't talking NFL type money. It would be interesting but not impossible.
I believe the day is coming and not that long from now. Decade or so maybe.
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