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re: If my memory is correct. LSU hasn't seen OL recruiting under Kelly this good since Saban.

Posted on 2/18/24 at 5:16 am to
Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 2/18/24 at 5:16 am to
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La'el - don't recall what happened with him but he should have been a high pick.
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but as an LSU fan you should know this doesn't tell the whole story:


But as an LSU Fan you should know what happened to La’el. A girl was killed, somehow, it was thought he was involved.

As for everyone else, nothing at LSU compares to ND and their OL. One draft class Kelly had two OL taken in the second round, in another class he had two OL taken in the first round, one the 6th pick and one the 9th pick. Another class, he had three OL taken. LSU has never had anything even close to this.

In the 2000’s, LSU has only had 11 players drafted, Kelly has that many taken in his time at ND.

Another position Kelly excels with is the TE’s, having 8 drafted. From 1990 to the past draft, LSU has had 8 taken.

I like what is being done with the OL now, this has been long overdue. To take two true freshman, an have them starting on the same line in the SEC, that has been a pleasure to observe.

Posted by tucoco
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Posted on 2/18/24 at 12:12 pm to
If it's 1 thing Kelly knows how to do it's find top OLinemen, unlike his predecessors. His OLines at Notre Dame were some of the best OLines around, and everywhere else he's coached at really.
Posted by AlwysATgr
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 2:48 am to
In Les' 12 seasons ('05-'16) we had only 7 OL drafted:
Whitworth - 2
Herman - 5
Narksdale - 3
Turner - 3
Hawkins - 4
Vadal - 7
Pocic - 2

In CBK's 12 seasons at ND, they had 12 OL drafted. Of those, there were 4 first rounders and 5 second rounders.

But if Will Arnold, Ciron, Faulk, and La'el are accounted for, then that would've been 11 OL draft picks in Les' era. Maybe ND had similar OL career-ending injuries that aren't being accounted for via draftees?

But for now, CBK had 12 OL at ND while Les 'had' 11 here. Not some glaring difference. That's why I don't think one can rightly distill our OL talent in the Les era to:
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Les for his 11 years at LSU had one player taken in the First round, by an OL. Andrew Whitworth.


The offensive struggles we endured under Les had little to do with OL talent and much to do with his stupid scheme.

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Another class, he had three OL taken. LSU has never had anything even close to this.


Didn't we have 3 OL drafted from '19 (Charles, Lewis, and Cush)? I think every starter from '19 eventually got drafted.
Posted by LSUFanMizeWay
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:41 am to
Adrian Magee was an UDFA and started at Left Guard in 2019
Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:59 am to
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The offensive struggles we endured under Les had little to do with OL talent and much to do with his stupid scheme.


NFL teams find talent, it’s their job. If you can play in the NFL, they’ll find you.

An yes, Les was a failure with what he wanted to run. Scheme was his downfall, I agree with that.


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Didn't we have 3 OL drafted from '19 (Charles, Lewis, and Cush)? I think every starter from '19 eventually got drafted.


Yes. Cush and Lewis were 3 rounders, Charles was in the 4th.
In comparison, ND had 2 OL in the second and one in the third, within the same draft class.

Posted by OhioLSUfan
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Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:18 am to
Under Miles it was about OL player development and he nailed it.
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 2/20/24 at 9:54 pm to
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Solid but not very good. He coached them well, and he got decent results against fair competition. Miles’ lines consistently had guys that the pros didn’t even look at. T-Bob played a lot for us, and he could not have started at Tulane.


In 11+ years at LSU, Miles recruited or coached 13 OL draft picks. Only 1 was a Saban recruit (Whitworth).

In 4 years at LSU, Saban recruited or coached 4 OL draft picks, two of which were on the roster when he arrived (Winey and Williams).

I’m not necessarily disagreeing with your assessment, but Miles was just as effective if not more so in getting OL talent here as Saban was.

Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:02 am to
If Kelly continues what he’s done at LSU, with the OL, he will be the best at getting, developing and finding offensive linemen.

Much could be said for a few more positions. In his second year to have a Heisman Trophy winner. He and his staff are already lining up future QB talent.

Those along with TE talent, make the offense enjoyable to watch.

The defense is getting a major overhaul, we will see a better product on that side of the ball this season.
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