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re: How do coaches decided who is an OG or OT?

Posted on 1/6/13 at 11:05 pm to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 11:05 pm to
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Have many years have you coached college football? Sound like an expert


He didn't need to be an expert. Collins could play any position on the line. He is elite.
Posted by coachmike76
Labadieville la
Member since Oct 2012
325 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 11:20 pm to
So what you're saying is Collins at OT, take out Alexander or Faulk... Who fills in at guard? Austin? Wiliford? Instead of having our best linemen on the field
Posted by whodidthat
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 11:36 pm to
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Collins could play any position on the line. He is elite.


True, but he's settled as an elite guard right now. More potential there than at OT. Guards are getting way more attention these days. There's a reason Carl Nicks is making close to 10 million a year.
Posted by Jakeyura
Belle Chasse, La / Gulf Shores, Al
Member since Nov 2012
1076 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 12:25 am to
It's simple, good height, arm length, quickness, pass blocking = tackle. High football IQ and leadership skills = center. Aggressive maulers that may not have the best pass blocking skills or are a little shorter and heavier/stockier = gaurd
Posted by BigChris
Covington
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/7/13 at 12:34 am to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
56139 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 5:47 am to
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So what you're saying is Collins at OT, take out Alexander or Faulk... Who fills in at guard? Austin? Wiliford? Instead of having our best linemen on the field


No indeed! I would never presume to know more than the coaches about who should be playing what position. Wait...except I always thought PP7 should have been a RB or WR. He was 6'-1", 222 lbs, had elite speed, and freakish body control/fluidity. I'd like to meet the knucklehead who saw all that and said, "uhhhh, how 'bout defensive back." Although I admit it worked out well for him.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/7/13 at 6:31 am to
It has a lot to do with skill sets and measurables versus defensive positions. Tackles tend to be taller as it helps versus various outside rush moves (I.e. swim move). Also, if your scheme relies on pulling guards, you need more fleet-footed guys (regardless of height)....granted, shorter usually means smaller and faster.

Then comes the complexities of blocking schemes by position and who has the aptitude to excel. Obviously, center requires the most aptitude as they recognize alignments and set blocking assignments.

Posted by jembeurt
Raceland
Member since Apr 2008
8878 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 7:33 am to
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Penrod


You seem to know a good bit about football, but the Peterson comment is pretty bad.

Yes he probably would be very good at RB, but RBs in the NFL now are just about a dime a dozen (excluding Adrian Peterson). Plus the beating he would be taking in addition to all his cramping issues.

That "knucklehead" that put him at CB has made him into a Thorpe and Bednarik winner, and in his second season in the NFL, has become one of the best CBs in the league. Which is much more important than a RB.
Posted by LSUANDY25
Frisco
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/7/13 at 9:50 am to
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Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8796 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:47 am to
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True, but he's settled as an elite guard right now. More potential there than at OT. Guards are getting way more attention these days. There's a reason Carl Nicks is making close to 10 million a year.


A great tackle is more valuable than a great guard. The NFL draft is exhibit A for this.
Posted by coachmike76
Labadieville la
Member since Oct 2012
325 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 1:45 pm to
It depends on the offense you run, yes the left tackle gets a lot of fame now. But the guards do a lot of dirty work. If your guards are weak, the pocket will collapse on the inside, also lsu runs a lot right up the A or 1 and 2 gaps so it's VERY important that our guards clean out the defensive tackles/ NT compared to our tackles simply kicking out the ends on inside runs
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
11831 posts
Posted on 1/7/13 at 4:44 pm to
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