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Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:16 pm to Dudebro2
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But to not realize it
I think it's just these certain kids want to blaze their own path
And imo, LF is the top player in La this year...not CR
We get our share of top guys from other states....shite happens
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:18 pm to The312
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Are you intentionally ignoring Williams, who was ranked in the Rivals 150 and was a Top 5 Louisiana player?
LSU wasn't actively recruiting Williams from early season on. He lost his spot. Williams no county.
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that is four Top 5 Louisiana players lost to Bama in the last three years,
So that's 3 in the last 3.
That averages 1 per year.
Big deal. LSU can afford to do so.
This post was edited on 8/28/13 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:21 pm to Linkovich
sorry, i'm just mad about it...
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:22 pm to 1723lale
Why are you mad though?
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:24 pm to Prominentwon
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So that's 3 in the last 3.
That averages 1 per year.
Big deal. LSU can afford to do so.
Some of this I agree with and some I don't. Losing Landon, while it sucked, wasn't the worse thing ever because LA produces and LSU recruits top tier DB talent every year. I think losing the closest thing to a lock at LT, a premium position with less LA talent to fill it, hurts more. However, you won't see me go all foosball about it. I think Williams falls in this category too. We can debate the end recruitment of Williams, but again, LSU always has talent to recruit at the DE spot. Three positions that I will always cringe to lose top flight LA talent is the DT, OT, and QB position. Period.
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:25 pm to lsusteve1
You win some, u loss some. If he signs with LSU he will be a legend in his own state and hated by rival teams. He goes to the other school, he will be soon forgotten and boo'ed in tiger stadium.
Chill and drink a beer, feb 2014 is a long way away.
Chill and drink a beer, feb 2014 is a long way away.
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:25 pm to Prominentwon
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LSU wasn't actively recruiting Williams at the end. He lost his spot. Williams no county.
Revisionist history. Williams was offered by LSU because the staff wanted him. LSU only stopped pursuing him (long after he was offered) because they realized it was squandered effort and they had little or no chance of signing him. LSU wanted him, offered him, and he ended up at Bama. End of story. He counts.
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So that's 3 in the last 3.
That averages 1 per year.
Big deal. LSU can afford to do so.
First, we aren't merely talking about one fungible mid-level player, we are talking about five-star, game changing, nationally prominent recruits like Collins and Robinson. Make no mistake, LSU CANNOT AFFORD to lose the best player in the state to Alabama on a regular basis. I don't even know how you could make this statement with a straight face, Prom. Bama has beaten us the last two times we faced them and has won THREE NC's to our ZERO over the last four years. They are already ahead of us on the field, they already have a superior tactical coach, and we certainly cannot afford to lose our most prized in-state recruits to them if we want to reverse the hierarchy.
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:26 pm to Salmon
Cause Nikki gets want he wants
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:27 pm to 1723lale
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Cause Nikki gets want he wants
I would like to know the percentage of LA kids that were offered by Alabama and LSU that went to Alabama.
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:28 pm to The312
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Bama has beaten us the last two times we faced them and has won THREE NC's to our ZERO over the last four years. They are already ahead of us on the field
uh oh dude, you cannot say this around here or your fan card will be questioned
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:28 pm to Goldrush25
And to answer your question, no there isn't a cause for concern. CLM has a tight net around this state but some are still going to get out no matter how well we do.
yea, your right,i just need to calm down.
yea, your right,i just need to calm down.
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:31 pm to The312
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Make no mistake, LSU CANNOT AFFORD to lose the best player in the state to Alabama on a regular basis.
So if Collins nad or Robinson turn out to not be the best player from the state in their respective classes, then it's not as big of a blow?
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:31 pm to The312
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Williams was offered by LSU because the staff wanted him. LSU only stopped pursuing him (long after he was offered) because they realized it was squandered effort and they had little or no chance of signing him. LSU wanted him, offered him, and he ended up at Bama. End of story. He counts.
Wrong. There were some off the field issues and LSU was not recruiting him. Doesn't count.
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five-star, game changing, nationally prominent recruits like Collins and Robinson. Make no mistake, LSU CANNOT AFFORD
Corey Thompson, a 3* will get as much playing time as Landon Collins will this year. Thompson was the backup. Judging by reports our of practice and playing time last year, how much of a drop off in talent will there between the two?
Are you already conceding that Collins is FAR AND AWAY better than Corey Thompson?
We'll see who the back up plan for Robinson will be.
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:33 pm to Salmon
put it this way. why are we not stealing 5 star recruits out of Alabama? it's not happening cause Nick is dominating.
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:33 pm to 1723lale
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why are we not stealing 5 star recruits out of Alabama?
How many 5* recruits have come out of Alabama the last 5 years?
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:35 pm to The312
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First, we aren't merely talking about one fungible mid-level player, we are talking about five-star, game changing, nationally prominent recruits like Collins and Robinson. Make no mistake, LSU CANNOT AFFORD to lose the best player in the state to Alabama on a regular basis. I don't even know how you could make this statement with a straight face, Prom. Bama has beaten us the last two times we faced them and has won THREE NC's to our ZERO over the last four years. They are already ahead of us on the field, they already have a superior tactical coach, and we certainly cannot afford to lose our most prized in-state recruits to them if we want to reverse the hierarchy.
When you break it down, it's still about 1 player a year. I don't know why that's a problem, and if it is, what could be done about it. One player does not make or break any recruiting class.
Bama's the hot team right now. I don't think there's any inherent advantage they have over LSU other than they're the hot team. History tells us that they will soon regress to the mean. When they happens LSU will still be losing a top player to someone, it just won't be Bama.
LSU cannot get every top LA recruit. Just keep repeating that to yourself. Every talent-rich state loses top recruits to OOS teams.
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:37 pm to Prominentwon
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Robinson
Collins
Devall (who didn't want to play 4-3)
Anyone else worth mentioning?
WHOA!!!! 3 kids!!!!
Excuse me while I go punch this into excel and come up with a graph to show this disturbing trend in Pie Graph form.
Actually it is;
Eddie Lacy - "#116 nationally & #6 in-state"
Landon Collins - "#17 nationally & #1 in-state"
Tim Williams - "#117 nationally & #4 in-state"
Denzel Devall - "#122 nationally & #2 in-state"
Bradley Sylve - "#122 nationally & #7 in-state"
Darrington Sentimore - "#126 nationally & #7 in-state"
Cameron Robinson - "#3 nationally & #2 in-state"
And if they get CRob "that is still an if" who says they are finished in the state of Louisiana. They picked up Cameron Sims already, who else might be swayed by CRob picking Bama.
Look I am not saying the sky is falling I clearly stated that in a previous post, and I hope no one picks Bama. But I am not going to stick my head in the sand like you are and not recognize that in the past 5 years, every since Satan has gotten on a role recruiting at Bama. There is a trend that is starting to happen with us losing nationally ranked top in-state recruits to one team. If this was to a multitude of teams not an issue, but a pipeline of our top in-state recruits starting to go to Bama is a problem we need to recognize it. Recognizing the problem is the first step in correcting the problem. And the past 3 years it looks like they might have cherry picked the #17 recruit nationally "fact' and possibly the #3 recruit nationally and who says they are done in our state. I mean seriously does anyone really think that Gerald Willis is a lock after the Collins fiasco?
This is a trend and it is a problem. Keep sticking your head in the sand all that leads to his getting your
whacked.This post was edited on 8/28/13 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:38 pm to Prominentwon
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Corey Thompson, a 3* will get as much playing time as Landon Collins will this year. Thompson was the backup. Judging by reports our of practice and playing time last year, how much of a drop off in talent will there between the two?
Are you already conceding that Collins is FAR AND AWAY better than Corey Thompson?
We'll see who the back up plan for Robinson will be.
Think about this for a second, please. First of all, Thompson isn't as good as Collins. After all, even the LSU STAFF WANTED COLLINS OVER THOMPSON. No one disputes this. Second, even assuming the drop-off between Thompson and Collins is slight, there is still a drop-off, meaning that Bama got the better player and LSU has to make do with a lesser option. Third, the point about relative playing time is misguided, in my view. If Collins doesn't play at Bama this year, it means there is someone even better than him -- and hence that much better than Thompson -- above him on the Bama depth chart. Finally, irrespective of who the back-up plan is for Robinson, it's still exactly that: a BACK-UP plan. In other words, even the coaches would agree that they wanted ROBINSON more than this back-up plan, whoever he may be.
Prom, I wish you would simply admit that losing five star in-state recruits to Bama is a bad thing. It would be better if it didn't happen. LSU would be better off if it didn't happen. I know you are too stubborn to just acknowledge that, though.
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:39 pm to Dudebro2
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Eddie Lacy - "#116 nationally & #6 in-state"
LSU didn't recruit Lacy due to grades. He could barely spell his name, yet BAMA got him eligible
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Landon Collins - "#17 nationally & #1 in-state"
Covered.
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Tim Williams - "#117 nationally & #4 in-state"
LSU wasn't actively recruiting Williams due to off the field issues.
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Denzel Devall - "#122 nationally & #2 in-state"
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Bradley Sylve - "#122 nationally & #7 in-state"
you're using this guy? What has he done? Has he hurt LSU in any way, shape, or form? quote:
Darrington Sentimore - "#126 nationally & #7 in-state"
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Cameron Robinson - "#3 nationally & #2 in-state"
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