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re: Has LSU dropped the Redemptorist RB charged with rape?
Posted on 1/21/11 at 3:40 pm to TigerInBamaLand
Posted on 1/21/11 at 3:40 pm to TigerInBamaLand
Even though it may be against the law, this kid isnt going to get ten to twenty in pound-me-in-the-arse prison like some elitest think he will. There are several laws and circumstances that reduce this sort of crime to a misdemeanor at best. Now if the guy forced her(physically) into it itd be different.
But the thing is, for me personally its no that I feel the law is unjust, just that the perception people are taking on the seriousness of the crime is totally out of whack. I thonk giving up on this kid just because of this is unfair.
But, watch this matter be settled out of court once the girls family realizes they can get more financially than through justice in criminal court. Or by now, they already know that.
But the thing is, for me personally its no that I feel the law is unjust, just that the perception people are taking on the seriousness of the crime is totally out of whack. I thonk giving up on this kid just because of this is unfair.
But, watch this matter be settled out of court once the girls family realizes they can get more financially than through justice in criminal court. Or by now, they already know that.
This post was edited on 1/21/11 at 3:42 pm
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Posted on 1/21/11 at 4:21 pm to alu
Posted on 1/21/11 at 4:26 pm to tigerskin
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Can a 14 year old consent to give a 16 year old a blowjob? Just wondering what the law is in this instance and if such a child would be "protected" from "consenting" to sex.
It's not a question of the 14 year-old consenting. The 16 year-old isn't an adult either. The only way to answer your question is to say this: In your hypothetical, the 16 year-old has not committed a crime.
Posted on 1/21/11 at 4:34 pm to Mike Linebacker
He maybe should not get his scholarship but if he ends up in jail then a travesty will have occurred
Posted on 1/21/11 at 4:36 pm to Elleshoe
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He maybe should not get his scholarship but if he ends up in jail then a travesty will have occurred
I disagree.
Posted on 1/21/11 at 4:37 pm to Elleshoe
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He maybe should not get his scholarship but if he ends up in jail then a travesty will have occurred
I agree completely. He will have committed a crime by the letter of the law. But the punishment should meet the crime. He should get probation, a fine, community service. Shoot, having this on his record is going to be punishment enough. And he severely hampered his athletic career before it got started.
Posted on 1/21/11 at 4:38 pm to Elleshoe
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He maybe should not get his scholarship but if he ends up in jail then a travesty will have occurred
Not according to the law.
Posted on 1/21/11 at 4:40 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Not according to the law.
Does the law have mandatory jail time?
Posted on 1/21/11 at 4:44 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I can understand where some of you are coming from because really I dont think y'all understand the purpose of going go jail. It is to rehabilitate those who can't be while also members of society. If he didnt force her to do it all he did was get a blow job. Yes it's against the law but the embarrassment, probation, and blowing his ride to LSU will serve the purpose intended.
Sending him to jail will only ensure he probably never gets a college education and never becomes a productive member of society when he would be released
Sending him to jail will only ensure he probably never gets a college education and never becomes a productive member of society when he would be released
Posted on 1/21/11 at 4:46 pm to Mike Linebacker
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Does the law have mandatory jail time?
In some states, don't know about La. It does allow for jail time, however. Probably will depend on the particulars of the incident.
Posted on 1/21/11 at 4:51 pm to Elleshoe
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I dont think y'all understand the purpose of going go jail. It is to rehabilitate those who can't be while also members of society.
LOL
Is this written in stone somewhere? Are there no other reasons to send criminals to jail.
Posted on 1/21/11 at 4:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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In some states, don't know about La. It does allow for jail time, however. Probably will depend on the particulars of the incident.
See I do not think it does. Obviously, the law permits a judge/jury to throw him in jail. But I think the sentence can depend on the facts and circumstances.
The law is proper and if he did it he should be convicted. I don't think there is room for debate and I don't think the law allows room for debate.
Where there is room for debate is on the consequences of the conviction. Based on what is out there, I would not vote (if I were on a jury) or sentence (if I were the judge) either of these boys to prison for this.
They'd have the conviction and it's long term ramifications on their record. I'd make them do community service and put them on probation, etc.
But I'm not wasting tax payer money on incarcerating them nor am I going to let this completely destroy their lives.
But if I am Les Miles, if he did it, he's not a Tiger.
Posted on 1/21/11 at 4:56 pm to Mike Linebacker
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See I do not think it does. Obviously, the law permits a judge/jury to throw him in jail. But I think the sentence can depend on the facts and circumstances.
I agree, which is my point. If found that he meets the sentencing guidelines for jail time, he will most likely serve. If not, he will probably get probation only depending on the minimum guidelines. I don't think any of us know the circumstances enough to say that "serving time is a travesty."
Posted on 1/21/11 at 4:56 pm to moneyg
Not really. Jails are meant to punish/rehabilitate. I think jail is kind of a harsh penalty for getting a blow job especially if he didn't make her do it. I think losing his scholarship to LSU is a tough enough penalty for the guy. Why ruin his entire life because he got his dick sucked if he can learn a lesson without being completely ruined for the future
Posted on 1/21/11 at 4:58 pm to RogerTheShrubber
It's pretty cut and dry. He got a blow job from a 14 year old and he is 18. The only question is if it was forced ( which he hasn't been charged with as of yet). If it wasn't forced, jail time would be a travesty.
Posted on 1/21/11 at 4:58 pm to Elleshoe
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Why ruin his entire life because he got his dick sucked if he can learn a lesson without being completely ruined for the future
I don't know the circumstances, do you?
Posted on 1/21/11 at 5:02 pm to RogerTheShrubber
He has been charged. The circumstances are pretty cut and dry. He hasn't been charged with anything indicating it was forced. Based simply on the only charge against him he should not be in jail
Posted on 1/21/11 at 5:08 pm to Elleshoe
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If it wasn't forced, jail time would be a travesty.
yeah I'm leaning this way too
ETA a long probation period and some counseling/community service probably sufficient
This post was edited on 1/21/11 at 5:10 pm
Posted on 1/21/11 at 5:33 pm to Elleshoe
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If it wasn't forced, jail time would be a travesty.
I agree. It was a senior hooking up with a freshmen. A co-ed. Top dog, fresh meat. Wooderson.
Posted on 1/21/11 at 9:21 pm to tigerguy121
quote:This would probably be what would happen if it gets into criminal court. If felony charges were oursued, the "Romeo & Juliet" defense would be used, and since they both went to highschool it would stand within reason to be effective. The court of law is not going to ruin this kid for the rest of his life if he didnt physically force that girl.
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If it wasn't forced, jail time would be a travesty.
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yeah I'm leaning this way too
ETA a long probation period and some counseling/community service probably sufficient
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