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Posted on 3/5/14 at 4:04 pm to rumproast
Noel Divine did have the craziest highlight reel I've ever seen in a high schooler. My favorite stat line of his career:
Noel Devine's Sophomore Year vs. Estero High School. Devine rushed for 365 yards and six touchdowns on only NINE carries. Devine also returned the kickoff 84 yards for a touchdown. His 5 touchdown runs were for 72, 44, 80, 40 and 68 yards. His other 4 carries he stepped out of bounds....he was never tackled in the game.
Noel Devine's Sophomore Year vs. Estero High School. Devine rushed for 365 yards and six touchdowns on only NINE carries. Devine also returned the kickoff 84 yards for a touchdown. His 5 touchdown runs were for 72, 44, 80, 40 and 68 yards. His other 4 carries he stepped out of bounds....he was never tackled in the game.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 4:51 pm to KG5989
Correct.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 5:25 pm to dreaux
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Correct.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 12:06 am to KG5989
Speedy Noil and Markeith Ambles
Posted on 3/6/14 at 12:23 am to KG5989
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Devine, Shep, Seastrunk, McGuffie, McKnight,etc.
Two of these aren't like the other. Seastrunk and Devine in no way underperformed in college ball...
Devine ended his career with 4,315 yards rushing (5.9 ypc) and 29 TDs.
Seastrunk had back-to-back 1,000 yard+ seasons and averaged 7.5 ypc for his career (roughly).
Posted on 3/6/14 at 12:38 am to bmy
McKnight was no slouch.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 12:39 am to bmy
Stat wise, they were solid. But they never became the type of player that people thought they could be coming out of high school. I didnt say they sucked in college or anything like that. But they never became the type of player in college that majority of the country thought they could be. Thats what I meant by underachieving.
Devine only had 2 seasons with over 1,000 yards out of 4 seasons. Not horrible, but not great. And there are usually around 50 1,000 yard rushers each year in college.
Seastrunk was 58th in rushing in 2012 and 30th this past year.
Plus, look at the offenses they were on and who they played. The past 2 years, Baylor has been the most offensive friendly team in college football stat wise. And WV was considered to be 1 of the more offensive friendly teams stat wise back when Devine was there. And both teams play in conferences that have high scoring offenses and weak D.
And again, those guys weren't horrible in college. But they never became the type of player that most people thought they would become.
Devine only had 2 seasons with over 1,000 yards out of 4 seasons. Not horrible, but not great. And there are usually around 50 1,000 yard rushers each year in college.
Seastrunk was 58th in rushing in 2012 and 30th this past year.
Plus, look at the offenses they were on and who they played. The past 2 years, Baylor has been the most offensive friendly team in college football stat wise. And WV was considered to be 1 of the more offensive friendly teams stat wise back when Devine was there. And both teams play in conferences that have high scoring offenses and weak D.
And again, those guys weren't horrible in college. But they never became the type of player that most people thought they would become.
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 12:51 am
Posted on 3/6/14 at 9:01 am to higgins
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Noel Devine's highlights are still the best I've seen. Many on here are too young to remember. Some wanna bash because he didn't win 6 Heismans at WVU. On tape alone, ND is the king. I thought the shite was fake.
Did you think before you typed this. To young.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 10:18 am to rumproast
While Devine's was amazing, from what I remember (and it's been a while), it was impressive mainly because of how explosive and fast he was. What sets LF's apart is his absurd combination of power, moves, and speed. There are several instances of a defender closing in on him with the perfect angle and he just kicks it up 2 notches and heads for the hills. Devine's was a little easier to digest because he was just so god damn fast, whereas Fournette's just leaves you mystified in many cases because you can't fathom how in the hell he just did that.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 10:21 am to KG5989
Oh yeah, NOW you guys want to talk about this. I had a whole tournament bracket set up and everything I think last summer but no one wanted to participate.
I may try it again since it appears it is a VERY dead time on this board (hell even the SECRb is dead) and since March Madness is approaching
I may try it again since it appears it is a VERY dead time on this board (hell even the SECRb is dead) and since March Madness is approaching
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 10:24 am
Posted on 3/6/14 at 10:54 am to RogerTheShrubber
daton hilliard at lsu
Posted on 3/6/14 at 3:46 pm to GeauxAggie972
Summer time is when this board is busy. Its when recruits are at camps and showcases and making visits across the country.
Right now, right after signing day and the next class isnt doing too much visiting and camps, etc. Its a slow time for the recruiting board.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 7:16 pm to KG5989
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Devine only had 2 seasons with over 1,000 yards out of 4 seasons. Not horrible, but not great. And there are usually around 50 1,000 yard rushers each year in college.
Devine had a great career rushing for over 600 yards, 900 yards, 1200 yards, and 1400 yards in four different seasons. As a matter of fact, dating back to 1956, Devine is ranked 64th in career rushing yards. That is elite company. He also finished his career out with 700 receiving yards. There are very few backs that are that consistent.
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Seastrunk was 58th in rushing in 2012 and 30th this past year.
Lache had a chance to dominate. He did most of his work while injured and playing less games. It took the guy only 130 carries to amass 1000 yards, TWICE, in back to back years! Had he been given the ball 200-240 times, he would be looking at back to back 1600 yard seasons at least. If he had stayed another year, he would have just done the same thing barring a serious injury.
I really don't understand where you were going with this.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 7:44 pm to Datbayoubengal
Well finish reading the post then... 
Devine is 64th in career rushing yards... Great. How many great RBs stay 4 years in college?? None. They go pro.
And again, those guys weren't horrible in college. But they werent as dominant at the next level as people thought they would be coming out of high school. And tha
And look at the type of team those guys played on and played against. High octane offense going against horrible Ds. Curious to see what those guys did against a legit college D.
And the reason Seastrunk wasnt able to get 200+ carries is because he cant handle a heavy workload and was always banged up. Hes not durable. Thats not a good thing.
Thats all I was saying. They were considered some of the best RB recruits ever and have some of the best highlight reels of all time for RBs. But they werent even considered top 10-15 RBs in the nation when they played. Thats all im getting at. Underachieved compared to the lofty expectations they had coming out of high school.
Devine is 64th in career rushing yards... Great. How many great RBs stay 4 years in college?? None. They go pro.
And again, those guys weren't horrible in college. But they werent as dominant at the next level as people thought they would be coming out of high school. And tha
And look at the type of team those guys played on and played against. High octane offense going against horrible Ds. Curious to see what those guys did against a legit college D.
And the reason Seastrunk wasnt able to get 200+ carries is because he cant handle a heavy workload and was always banged up. Hes not durable. Thats not a good thing.
Thats all I was saying. They were considered some of the best RB recruits ever and have some of the best highlight reels of all time for RBs. But they werent even considered top 10-15 RBs in the nation when they played. Thats all im getting at. Underachieved compared to the lofty expectations they had coming out of high school.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 8:46 pm to KG5989
Good post and good perspective.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 9:05 pm to bmy
I am partial to the first video of Lache Seastrunk that I made and posted specifically for this board's viewing pleasure.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 5:28 am to KG5989
What do you expect a highly touted RB to do? He met his lofty expectations. Their are very few ahead of him that did better in only three years, and by few, I mean 10. There are only 10 backs since 1956 who have accomplished more than him in less time. The argument about defenses is dumb as hell too as several on that list higher than him have had great NFL careers after playing against "crap competition"
No in the first year, Seastunk was not banged up. They went the Jeremy Hill route and waited several games in to give him any meaningful carries. He didn't get more than 7 carries in a game til the 10th game, then ran off 800+ in 6 games (against real competition).
They played 15 games in 2012. Had he been given the start from game one, you're probably looking at a 2000 yard back. But they didn't, so that can't be debated.
What are your expectations for an highly touted back? Devine was 70 yards shy of three 1000 yard seasons. Seastunk did in a 290 carries, what most RBs can't do in 390 carries.
These aren't big, powerful running backs. These are speed guys with excellent agility and vision. They aren't going to carry the ball 300 times to amass a shite ton of yardage. You also can't lower a guy's accomplishments just because of injury either.
No in the first year, Seastunk was not banged up. They went the Jeremy Hill route and waited several games in to give him any meaningful carries. He didn't get more than 7 carries in a game til the 10th game, then ran off 800+ in 6 games (against real competition).
They played 15 games in 2012. Had he been given the start from game one, you're probably looking at a 2000 yard back. But they didn't, so that can't be debated.
What are your expectations for an highly touted back? Devine was 70 yards shy of three 1000 yard seasons. Seastunk did in a 290 carries, what most RBs can't do in 390 carries.
These aren't big, powerful running backs. These are speed guys with excellent agility and vision. They aren't going to carry the ball 300 times to amass a shite ton of yardage. You also can't lower a guy's accomplishments just because of injury either.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 10:53 am to Datbayoubengal
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Lache had a chance to dominate.
Lache had 185 yards on 19 carries against the number 1 ranked BCS team is not domination?
Posted on 3/9/14 at 7:11 pm to KG5989
This is going to sound crazy, but Shawn Jordan's was awesome. He was so big and juiced up. Leaping over players, stiff arming to the ground, and out running guys. I've been trying to find it for years. All I can find is mma video.
I've watched film on damn near every back since 2000 when I started following recruiting, and LF is the best I've seen. What he can do at his size vs other athletes is jaw dropping
I've watched film on damn near every back since 2000 when I started following recruiting, and LF is the best I've seen. What he can do at his size vs other athletes is jaw dropping
This post was edited on 3/9/14 at 7:15 pm
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