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re: Dexter Pratt
Posted on 1/17/09 at 11:06 am to LSUME86
Posted on 1/17/09 at 11:06 am to LSUME86
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Do we really know that the Clearinghouse is the holdup?
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Could it be that his paperwork was sent in late?
I posted this in another thread a few days ago. A college teammate of mine had a problem like this. He was not cleared to play by the clearinghouse. However, he was allowed to enroll (maybe he payed his own way? not sure.) The problem was with his high school. They dropped the ball on some papers that needed to be sent. It took him a full year to become eligible. The clearinghouse was extremely slow once they received the papers. Not saying that is what happened with the Pratt situation. Just saying sometimes in not the kid's, the university's, or the coach's fault.
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Posted on 1/17/09 at 11:23 am to Aggie Fan04
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Yes, that is exactly right. That is the issue A&M has with Mid-terms this year. We don't have room because of this. I would agree that it would be dumb not to take Pratt over a punter, but just reporting what is out there.
AggieFan04,
Pratt may in fact be upset and he may not come to LSU, but it will not have anything to do with the 85 schollie limit rule.
There are at least 8 kids off the top of my head, without even looking that have either graduated at mid term and are no longer on schollie or have dropped out of school, or have declared for the draft and dropped out of school.
Ricky-Jean Francois never enrolled for Spring, announced for NFL draft, has hired agent
Herman Johnson graduated in DEC
Quinn Johnson graduated in DEC
Brady Dalfrey graduated in DEC
Curtis Taylor graduated in DEC
Tyson Jackson graduated in DEC
Tremaine Johnson graduated in DEC
Andrew Hatch withdrew from school, renounced schollie and enrolled at Harvard.
That is 8 off the top of my head and does not count LaFell who announced for the draft this week and could be gone by Sunday.
Pratt may be reconsidering his options but there is indeed a mid term schollie for him if he still wants it.
EDIT to add Ryan Miller he may have graduated as well, does anyone know for sure?
This post was edited on 1/17/09 at 11:27 am
Posted on 1/17/09 at 11:28 am to NoGeaux
I blame this situation on the high school and his coach. Not Pratt, LSU, or the Clearinghouse. The Clearinghouse has standards that the high school and coach should make sure that the athletes meet. Pratt doesn't know the difference if the school tells him something is going to work out. Its not the clearinghouse's fault if a kid doesn't meet the standards and it is surely not LSU's fault.
It appears that Pratt didn't qualify, most likely on coursework not grades, since we would have heard about that earlier. That makes me blame the school and the coach for not getting him into the right classes.
It appears that Pratt didn't qualify, most likely on coursework not grades, since we would have heard about that earlier. That makes me blame the school and the coach for not getting him into the right classes.
Posted on 1/17/09 at 11:56 am to Fratastic423
The Daily Oklahoman reported that Pratt will not be coming to LSU and his recruitment is open. He is considering Okie St. among other schools. It says that "it is unclear as to what happened between LSU and Pratt but one thing is clear-he will not be attending LSU".
Posted on 1/17/09 at 12:03 pm to MiketheTiger69
linkage
Posted on 1/17/09 at 12:03 pm to MiketheTiger69
Then its time to move on. Theres other fish out there. There was no guarantee Pratt would have beat out any of the other RB's. As much as i wanted him in this class, if he doesnt want to be a Tiger then move on to someone who does...
That is all.
That is all.
Posted on 1/17/09 at 12:04 pm to Fratastic423
I don't have a full grasp of the situation myself, but I think a lot of people here are making assumptions.
1. I don't think it has been confirmed that it is a clearinghouse issue. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
2. There is an 85 scholarship limit. Does anyone know how early enrollees affect that limit. Do they immediately affect the 85 limit? Or, do they automatically only get counted for the fall?
If they immediately affect the limit, then I would assume that would mean that for every early enrollee, there would have to be someone on scholarship in the fall, who is not on scholarship in the spring (assuming we were at 85 in the fall). Can someone explain how this works?
3. We have 5 early enrollees. (Shepard, Garrett, Calhoun, Minter, Helton).
4. I'm assuming RJF and Hatch are not enrolled in the Spring semester. Lafell has announced for the draft, but I'm assuming he's still in school. It's possible that there are others who are not in school that we don't know about. Or perhaps there are seniors who graduated in December and are no longer enrolled. ETA: Nogeaux's post above does a good job of detailing this.
The bottom line is depending on the answer to some of the questions above, it's wouldn't totally shock me that Miles had one less spot for early enrollees than he expected and had to turn Pratt away.
The A&M poster may be wrong about all of the details, and obviously has very little understanding of the situation, but his conclusion may be correct that LSU had to ask Pratt to wait until the summer. If that's the case, perhaps Pratt was the guy asked to wait since he is most likely to redshirt.
1. I don't think it has been confirmed that it is a clearinghouse issue. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
2. There is an 85 scholarship limit. Does anyone know how early enrollees affect that limit. Do they immediately affect the 85 limit? Or, do they automatically only get counted for the fall?
If they immediately affect the limit, then I would assume that would mean that for every early enrollee, there would have to be someone on scholarship in the fall, who is not on scholarship in the spring (assuming we were at 85 in the fall). Can someone explain how this works?
3. We have 5 early enrollees. (Shepard, Garrett, Calhoun, Minter, Helton).
4. I'm assuming RJF and Hatch are not enrolled in the Spring semester. Lafell has announced for the draft, but I'm assuming he's still in school. It's possible that there are others who are not in school that we don't know about. Or perhaps there are seniors who graduated in December and are no longer enrolled. ETA: Nogeaux's post above does a good job of detailing this.
The bottom line is depending on the answer to some of the questions above, it's wouldn't totally shock me that Miles had one less spot for early enrollees than he expected and had to turn Pratt away.
The A&M poster may be wrong about all of the details, and obviously has very little understanding of the situation, but his conclusion may be correct that LSU had to ask Pratt to wait until the summer. If that's the case, perhaps Pratt was the guy asked to wait since he is most likely to redshirt.
This post was edited on 1/17/09 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 1/17/09 at 12:09 pm to moneyg
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If that's the case, perhaps Pratt was the guy asked to wait since he is most likely to redshirt.
LOL and they waited until he got on campus and his ride left to go home to tell him?
A kid they have recruited for more than a year?
He walks up to Miles on Monday and Miles says thanks but no room for you, can you come back in June? Sorry your ride left, we can't pay for bus fare back can you find your way back home?
YEAH, that's the ticket! Come on!
Posted on 1/17/09 at 12:09 pm to moneyg
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his conclusion may be correct that LSU had to ask Pratt to wait until the summer. If that's the case, perhaps Pratt was the guy asked to wait since he is most likely to redshirt.
Garrett is the biggest lock to redshirt
Posted on 1/17/09 at 12:13 pm to Derby Tigah
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linkage
not sure this is what he is talking about but here is a link from that paper
LINK
This post was edited on 1/17/09 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 1/17/09 at 12:20 pm to NoGeaux
quote:Well...I don't know whats going on, but I can assure you that it wasn't because we didn't have a spot for him.
OSU in running for ex-LSU commit
There’s plenty of speculation but little in the way of hard proof as to what happened between Dexter Pratt and LSU. Regardless, it doesn’t look like the Navasota, Texas, High School running back will be playing for the Tigers this fall.
Pratt, 6-foot-1, 220 pounds, had hoped to enroll at LSU for the spring semester, but it seems that undetermined circumstances have terminated that relationship. Oklahoma State is believed to be among the contenders now, though Pratt’s recruitment is open.
This post was edited on 1/17/09 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 1/17/09 at 12:20 pm to NoGeaux
Where's below par when you need him? 
Posted on 1/17/09 at 12:21 pm to tygerfan11
I'm still encouraged because his myspace is updated and it still shows LSU! 
Posted on 1/17/09 at 12:23 pm to NoGeaux
the smoke is definitely thickening..
Posted on 1/17/09 at 12:23 pm to NoGeaux
Yeah that was it. Hate to admit it but I'm a complete computer idiot! My dumbass doesn't know how to establish a link! Help! 
Posted on 1/17/09 at 12:25 pm to kjanchild
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I'm still encouraged because his myspace is updated and it still shows LSU!
His mood says "Betrayed"
Posted on 1/17/09 at 12:27 pm to kjanchild
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I'm still encouraged because his myspace is updated and it still shows LSU!
But his status says "betrayed"
Posted on 1/17/09 at 12:29 pm to CliffNotesPlease
If his page is still decked out in LSU stuff...but his mood says betrayed...maybe this means there's some backdealings by his own high school...which just happens to be right next to A & M. CONSPIRACY
Posted on 1/17/09 at 12:30 pm to thunderbird1100
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I'm still encouraged because his myspace is updated and it still shows LSU!
His mood says "Betrayed"
If you go with my idea that it was the high school and coach's fault, he could feel betrayed by them since he thought he was good to go only to find out that something the school told him was right wasn't right at all. Especially since it still shows LSU.
Posted on 1/17/09 at 12:31 pm to thunderbird1100
Pratt's stock dropped significantly among some recruiting gurus while Ford's stock rose significantly at the same time. Could it be that LSU chose to take less than a pro-active role in his academic deliema? It would be unlike LSU, I'll admit. But his attitude may have given them a way out?
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