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re: Can someone explain the different ways schools can "get around" scholly limits?
Posted on 12/28/13 at 9:41 am to Smalls
Posted on 12/28/13 at 9:41 am to Smalls
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So, in 2013 you sign 25, but only 22 qualify. In 2014, you can sign 28?
Depends on interpretation. With the more liberal interpretation, if you had 3 EEs that could apply to 2013, then you could sign 28 total. With the more conservative interpretation you could not do this (assuming the 25 signed in 2013 all applied to 2013 and none to 2012).
The problem is I'm unaware of any SEC team that has done the liberal interpretation in the past 2 years. Yes, some signed more than 25, but they did so through a normal backcounting process that had nothing to do with athletes not qualifying.
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Posted on 12/28/13 at 10:09 am to Indiana Tiger
can take as many commitments as you want, but on signing day, first Thursday in February, you can only sign 28. Out of that 28, only 25 can receive financial aid and be on scholarship come the first day of school. Anyone you grey shirted in the prior year would count against this 25. Any early enrollies that can be applied to any slots in the previous years recruiting class to bring it up to it's 25 limit can be counted back to the previous years class and not to the current years class. Really it's pretty simple in that you are limited to 25 actually coming in on scholarship each year whether you count anyone forward or backward.
Posted on 12/28/13 at 10:36 am to boxcar willie
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on signing day, first Thursday in February, you can only sign 28. Out of that 28, only 25 can receive financial aid and be on scholarship come the first day of school.
Some corrections.
o signing day is the first Wednesday in Feb.
o you cannot sign 28 on signing day, you can only sign 25. Signing means a National Letter of Intent or an institutional offer of financial aid. Any thing else is meaningless, so those other 3 are not really signing anything.
o to "sign" more than 25, the additions have to be EEs. These are the only ones that get backcounted.
o I don't know how they actually manage grey shirts today. An offer of financial aid in the future is an offer of financial aid today and offers of financial aid today count today. My guess these are handshake agreements now.
Posted on 12/28/13 at 11:26 am to Indiana Tiger
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you cannot sign 28 on signing day, you can only sign 25. Signing means a National Letter of Intent or an institutional offer of financial aid. Any thing else is meaningless, so those other 3 are not really signing anything.
watch and see on signing day. I believe you can sign up to 28. You see teams do it every year. You sign more and count on some not making the grades or something else happening where they don't make it to campus. Happened with Porter where we signed more than 25 and didn't get the expected number of those not making it to campus and we had to tell him we didn't actually have room for him and he went to Kentucky for a year.
I agree that grey shirts really isn't any thing official but just an agreement that we don't have room in this class but will save a schollie in the next class for the 'grey shirter'. JUst a handshake agreement like you said.
Posted on 12/28/13 at 11:31 am to boxcar willie
The rule is now 25 signees, it used to be 28. If a school signs more than 25 it is because some are EE's and counting back.
Posted on 12/28/13 at 12:06 pm to MOT
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The rule is now 25 signees, it used to be 28. If a school signs more than 25 it is because some are EE's and counting back.
must be relatively new rule then
Posted on 12/28/13 at 12:07 pm to Smalls
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So, in 2013 you sign 25, but only 22 qualify. In 2014, you can sign 28?
yes, but they have to be early enrollies in order to count them back to that previous class
This post was edited on 12/28/13 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 12/28/13 at 12:09 pm to boxcar willie
Just a year or two old
Posted on 12/28/13 at 12:10 pm to RATeamWannabe
I think the whole thing with 'blue shirts' is probably some internet myth. Not sure what it is even supposed to mean.
Posted on 12/28/13 at 1:11 pm to boxcar willie
Okay so the "extra" EE's are already in school on signing day. I think I got it.
Posted on 12/28/13 at 1:15 pm to Smalls
This is Saban's secret.
This post was edited on 12/28/13 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 12/28/13 at 1:46 pm to LSU Patrick
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This is Saban's secret.
while Saban started and perfected the whole thing with 'processing' players, Miles and the rest of the SEC followed suit. It's what you have to do to try to keep up. Got to make room for a full count of 25 each and every year, then weed them out later, if you want to stay competitive.
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