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re: Big Movers in new Rivals100
Posted on 10/13/08 at 10:42 pm to NastyTiger
Posted on 10/13/08 at 10:42 pm to NastyTiger
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So... Basically what you're saying is the only reason he is a ranked starred player is because he had a good surrounding cast? Great players make plays without groups of recievers and oline men that are college bound.
Seriously, many Top 100 recruits and I'm certain some REAL Top 10 QBs make plays without DI level receivers and lineman.
Posted on 10/13/08 at 11:49 pm to thunderbird1100
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Seriously, many Top 100 recruits and I'm certain some REAL Top 10 QBs make plays without DI level receivers and lineman.
I think AJ will be fine. He's a solid QB. He did drop a few spots though so I'm not sure why people are acting like he jumped up the rankings.
I'm excited about Fluker due to his potential. LSU is recruiting him as well. He's not gonna step in and play LT right away but his upside is exciting.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 1:40 am to NastyTiger
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DJ Fluker now a 5*, probable OT
So because he projects as an OT he is ramped up to a 5 star..........

I love Rivals.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 4:42 am to The Egg
I think they pushed Shep too low, hes a top 5 player on athletic ability alone
The only outrage I see is that Fluker (as a DT) is listed above Davenport. Between the two, Davenport is absolutely the better DT. Now if your ranking Fluker as an OT or OG and rank him above Davenport, that at least makes sense.
Also, I think Loston should be higher and those cali recruits are overrated. I can foresee at several of those being busts.
The only outrage I see is that Fluker (as a DT) is listed above Davenport. Between the two, Davenport is absolutely the better DT. Now if your ranking Fluker as an OT or OG and rank him above Davenport, that at least makes sense.
Also, I think Loston should be higher and those cali recruits are overrated. I can foresee at several of those being busts.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 5:32 am to The Egg
So it looks , with the help of moving recruits up and ours down, that bama is about to move ahead of us. What took so long?
Posted on 10/14/08 at 12:36 pm to outsideroach
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You seen his senior numbers? Not exactly #4 player in the country type stats.
How does that explain Matt Barkley, please?
Posted on 10/14/08 at 1:07 pm to Roaad
You guys are so hypocritical. You enjoy bashing McCarron saying "how bad he is" and that if he was any good then he would produce no matter what he has around him.... But you quickly defend Russell Shepard's sub-par passing statistics saying, "It's the system" or "he doesn't have anyone around him."
Cracks me up.
Cracks me up.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 1:10 pm to TigerGold4
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You guys are so hypocritical. You enjoy bashing McCarron saying "how bad he is" and that if he was any good then he would produce no matter what he has around him.... But you quickly defend Russell Shepard's sub-par passing statistics saying, "It's the system" or "he doesn't have anyone around him."
Cracks me up.
If this makes you laugh, go hang around the rant for a while. Should find a few chuckles there.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 1:13 pm to Brown Mountain
Brown Mountain, thanks for the advice. I do find the rant quite humorous.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 1:26 pm to TigerGold4
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You enjoy bashing McCarron saying "how bad he is" and that if he was any good then he would produce no matter what he has around him.... But you quickly defend Russell Shepard's sub-par passing statistics saying, "It's the system" or "he doesn't have anyone around him."
Shepard makes McCarron look like a pee-wee QB.
And no one has ever used the excuse of "Shepard has no OL or no WRs".
This post was edited on 10/14/08 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 10/14/08 at 1:33 pm to dj30
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Barkley has the best arm to come out of HS in years. Stats not that great, but potential is huge. USC could land 6 of the top-14
Barkely is overrated, probably because of the USC commit. It's pretty hard to justify (I know he had a great game last week) the number one ranking based on his season cumulative stats. Gilbert is better IMO. much better.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 1:34 pm to thunderbird1100
thunderbird, I never tried to compare the two. I was simply saying to take the LSU blinders off and be fair both ways.
How would you explain Shepard's passing statistics? Don't give me the "it's the system" crap because I've seen numerous average quarterbacks play in a run first, pray on pass and be 65% to 70% passers in the highest classifications of high school football.
How would you explain Shepard's passing statistics? Don't give me the "it's the system" crap because I've seen numerous average quarterbacks play in a run first, pray on pass and be 65% to 70% passers in the highest classifications of high school football.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 1:41 pm to TigerGold4
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How would you explain Shepard's passing statistics? Don't give me the "it's the system" crap because I've seen numerous average quarterbacks play in a run first, pray on pass and be 65% to 70% passers in the highest classifications of high school football.
Look, Shepard is a DUAL-THREAT QB. He can run and pass well. McCarron is a pro-style QB who hasn't even been able to pass decently this year. This is what we're pointing out.
And stop the BS about the system has "nothing to do with his numbers". You've probably never even seen him play. Yes, his system has a lot to do with his numbers. It's a given if you're chucking the ball up a lot your comp. pct. won't look so great. It's a given if you're throwing screens and slants all night your comp pct. will be high. Watch Shep's game this week and you'll easily find out why his passing isn't up around 70%, it's because he's throwing downfield a lot and throwing up a decent amount of "pray balls". He can make just about any throw there is and has been a good decision maker this year.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 1:46 pm to thunderbird1100
I understand what you're saying about the system, and it is a true statement. But it doesn't make your completion percentage THAT low (53%).
But I guess I'll just watch the game, and then we can chat later.
But I guess I'll just watch the game, and then we can chat later.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 1:49 pm to Aktig
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Barkely is overrated, probably because of the USC commit. It's pretty hard to justify (I know he had a great game last week) the number one ranking based on his season cumulative stats. Gilbert is better IMO. much better.
Upside and natural ability. You can't teach his arm.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 1:51 pm to TigerGold4
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I understand what you're saying about the system, and it is a true statement. But it doesn't make your completion percentage THAT low (53%).
Yes, it very easily can.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 1:52 pm to LuckyLee
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Upside and natural ability. You can't teach his arm.
He has been a terrible decision maker this year. You can't be the Top QB in the nation much more the #1 overall recruit if you don't have the brains to play your position.
Posted on 10/14/08 at 1:56 pm to thunderbird1100
thunderbird, what position did you play in football?
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