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re: Barkevious Mingo

Posted on 11/23/08 at 9:47 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/23/08 at 9:47 pm to
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but to say he doesn't fit LSU's scheme is just plain ridiculous.

not really, because he doesn't

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Especially when your arguement is that LSU "doesn't like speed rush guys".

they don't?

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I think everyone knows that LSU needs more speed on the edge....including LSU.

tell that to the next group of speed-rushing DEs that we bulk up to 270-290
Posted by CROWN N COKE
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Posted on 11/23/08 at 9:50 pm to
Kirston Pittman's weight gain occurred during his injury seasons when he couldn't fully train and workout. You don't have to look on the d-line for those examples...

Justin Vincent
Ally Broussard...

Posted by Cadello
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Posted on 11/23/08 at 9:50 pm to
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SlowFlowPro
Do you have anything positive to say about LSU?
Posted by locotiger
Dallas
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Posted on 11/23/08 at 9:51 pm to
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Anyone know his 40 time?
i talked to Coach Sanders (West Monroe's strength and conditioning coach) he said that Mingo ran a 4.61 in the Ironman Competition this past March
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 11/23/08 at 9:56 pm to
Pittman had what, 9 sacks last year?

he still only weighs 260


he may have lost speed from all his injuries, but his forte is rushing the passer. Though he has sucked this year.



As a FR, he came from ESJ as a LB. He was like 235 or so. So of course he was a speed rusher. It's crazy if you think he was supposed to stay at that weight.


His whole career until last year was to come in on 3rd down and rush the passer.



What i find funny though is saying LSU doesnt use speed rushers, yet who was the coach before Miles? Saban? What pass rush specialists thrived under him?

But he is going to make Mingo one?
Posted by CROWN N COKE
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Posted on 11/23/08 at 9:57 pm to
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but to say he doesn't fit LSU's scheme is just plain ridiculous.



not really, because he doesn't


quote:


Especially when your arguement is that LSU "doesn't like speed rush guys".



they don't?


quote:


I think everyone knows that LSU needs more speed on the edge....including LSU.



tell that to the next group of speed-rushing DEs that we bulk up to 270-290



The problem this year is that besides a lack of speed on the edge, teams are keeping 7 or 8 in to block our front four. We aren't using enough personnel to pressure the passer because we have to keep more back in coverage. Our secondary is the most glaring problem. If we could press cover, we could send more. But our inability to cover has caused us to try to pressure with only our front four. With 7 or 8 blocking, that ain't gonna work and I don't care how fast (or slow) you are.
This post was edited on 11/23/08 at 10:00 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/23/08 at 9:58 pm to
saban didn't use speed rushers either when he was at LSU

this 3-4 bullshite was picked up by him in the NFL and he ran it mainly LAST year at bama

very few CFB teams run a full time 3-4. UVA does and that's all i can think of now

USC did 2 years ago
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 11/23/08 at 9:58 pm to
The leading sacker for ALA has 3.5 sacks this year.

Im sure he is licking his chops to go there and rush the passer.


Their 2 leading sack guys are DEs who weigh 287 and 278

3rd leader is a MLB
Posted by Charles Bronson
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Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:00 pm to
My point is that I think Mingo's best position is a 34 OLB. LSU doesn't run a 34.

Plus, if I played defense, I'd rather play for Saban than the two retards LSU has at co-DC.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:01 pm to
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LSU doesn't run a 34.

i'm hoping we get a good Xs and Os DC who changes things up and shows different looks
Posted by CROWN N COKE
NELA
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:01 pm to
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The leading sacker for ALA has 3.5 sacks this year.

Im sure he is licking his chops to go there and rush the passer.


Their 2 leading sack guys are DEs who weigh 287 and 278

3rd leader is a MLB


BOOM!
Damn Lester, normally you piss me off, but I appreciated and enjoyed that info.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:01 pm to
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i talked to Coach Sanders (West Monroe's strength and conditioning coach) he said that Mingo ran a 4.61 in the Ironman Competition this past March


WM still using lasers to time?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:02 pm to
if he can play OLB in a 3-4 he can play one in a 4-3 as well.


cant think of too many college teams that use a 3-4 OLB to strictly rush the passer.
Posted by CROWN N COKE
NELA
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:03 pm to
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WM still using lasers to time?


I believe they are JJ. And I heard that Jordan Allen's times were close to Mingo's.
Posted by Charles Bronson
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Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:04 pm to
Probably so, but I really think if Mingo goes to LSU he ends up deep on the depth chart at DE while he puts on a bunch of weight.
Posted by CROWN N COKE
NELA
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:06 pm to
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if he can play OLB in a 3-4 he can play one in a 4-3 as well.


cant think of too many college teams that use a 3-4 OLB to strictly rush the passer


Either way, they could play him at a 9 tech and he can pin his ears back. That's what they have told him I'm sure.
Posted by locotiger
Dallas
Member since Jun 2008
3561 posts
Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:07 pm to
no they used the laser for the sparqtraining thing in may
same old stop watch that Coach E and Sanders have always used
This post was edited on 11/23/08 at 10:10 pm
Posted by CROWN N COKE
NELA
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:10 pm to
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Coach E


His reaction time is slowing down. Mingo must be faster than that then.
Posted by locotiger
Dallas
Member since Jun 2008
3561 posts
Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:13 pm to
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His reaction time is slowing down.

maybe just a little bit
last season i went to watch a practice and it happened to rain that day..starts raining..few minutes later you hear thunder and in complete unison Coach E and Hunt yell "shut er down"
Hunt is deathly afraid of thunder
This post was edited on 11/23/08 at 10:14 pm
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
61866 posts
Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:15 pm to
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same old stop watch that Coach E and Sanders have always used


My junior and senior year wasn't hand timed. You had to step on a mat and it automatically stopped the clock.
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