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re: Another example of why "stars" really don't matter
Posted on 2/16/12 at 3:57 pm to lil 7thward
Posted on 2/16/12 at 3:57 pm to lil 7thward
They do matter. As a ULL fan I can attest to that. Why do you think Sunbelt teams get skullfricked whenever they play SEC teams. It's because we've got 2 star talent and they've got 4-5 star talent. You really can't argue against that. Sure, we may get a 2 star guy that turns out to be a stud every now and again, but it's not common.
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Posted on 2/16/12 at 4:01 pm to david13
People say stars don't matter but I'm going to disagree and here is why. If you are a 5 star Ath. you can thank those 5 stars for that scholarship you have. It may not be accurate at times in rating a players ability but you can bet a 5-star Joe Joe the Dancer is going to have a lot more offers from top colleges than if it were 1-3 star Joe Joe the Dancer. So yes they are important b/c based on those stars you can pretty much predict the teir of colleges that will offer you even if you end up playing like a 2 star guy. More stars equals better offers even if you aren't as good as they say you are when the stars come out and less stars will give you fewer offers even if you end up being a college hall of famer.
Posted on 2/16/12 at 4:03 pm to lil 7thward
Posted on 2/16/12 at 4:07 pm to RollTigers
quote:Nice sentences.
LOL I know right? Rankings suck. I bet barely any five stars get drafted at all.
Posted on 2/16/12 at 4:10 pm to lil 7thward
Posted on 2/16/12 at 4:11 pm to LSU91MBA
Seems like just yesterday i was hoping they would say it was Lache Seastrunk University 
Posted on 2/16/12 at 4:11 pm to lil 7thward
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Check out these lower star players
Check out these higher star players:
NO. 1 overall
Best WR in football
Best RB in football
Posted on 2/16/12 at 4:13 pm to RollTigers
This year's draft is really an example of the star system working.
Most of the top flight 1st round guys were elite recruits. Mo Claiborne is like the one exception.
Most of the top flight 1st round guys were elite recruits. Mo Claiborne is like the one exception.
Posted on 2/16/12 at 4:14 pm to LSU91MBA
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Hmmm --- just what warranted that response Mr. Smartass?
Frustration
that this topic is brought up over and over and over again and people cherry pick this three star or two star and that five star to prove their point. As someone said earlier. Those are the exceptions to the rule. Not the Rule! I'm just tired of this coming up all the time. quote:
his primary reason for transfer was that he was not going to be "the man" at Oregon.... competition and probably not a lot of PT. Followed by closer to home and third by envolvement with the Willie Lyles investigation of Oregon.
There's a reason A. Hicks never played a down for LSU. Same reason for LS. HOWEVER... Your argument for Seastruck not seeing time because he won't "be the man" and he didn't pan out as a five star is still bad because "the man" who "beat him out" was a five star of five star players who was ranked highly as far back as his soph year. (5 star on all services, #3 recruit by Scout, #5 recruit by 247 and Rivals and #1 athlete by ESPN)
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I do not intend to say that the recruiting service's rankings of players (stars) are entirely irrelevant... more that they are a guide... but by no means an "exact" science.
You're saying that they don't matter by comparing one five star to two four stars. One of which hasn't seen the field. However, our original starter and second leading rusher was a five star.
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My POINT was that --- our fans went into some uproar about highly ranked players we "lost" in recruiting...
Rantards. You don't need to preach the gospel to the choir.
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Suntiger -- your critical post seems to me to be the more useless post here... but whatever, you have your opinion, I have mine.
My opinion is this thread is usless.
Posted on 2/16/12 at 4:19 pm to RollTigers
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Blackmon looks like a creeper
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LOL I know right? Rankings suck. I bet barely any five stars get drafted at all.
RollTigers doing work!
Posted on 2/16/12 at 4:20 pm to OBUDan
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Best RB in football
This link goes to Adrian Peterson, not Arian Foster
Posted on 2/16/12 at 4:22 pm to Suntiger
The better point to make is not to freak out about losing any 1 recruit. Big picture stars are good indicators, but obviously not 100%, so losing Landon Collins sucks, but its not the end of the world.
This post was edited on 2/16/12 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 2/16/12 at 4:24 pm to H-Town Tiger
Same thing as with McKnight. It sucked, he'll end up successful, but losing one player can't derail a program.
Posted on 2/16/12 at 4:25 pm to RollTigers
how about this guy?
Posted on 2/16/12 at 4:39 pm to Captain Crown
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The better point to make is not to freak out about losing any 1 recruit. Big picture stars are good indicators, but obviously not 100%, so losing Landon Collins sucks, but its not the end of the world.
Agreed, but that's just another point that has been brought up again and again and again. I'm just tired of it. I've ignored it as much as I could and today I've snapped.
Posted on 2/16/12 at 4:48 pm to Captain Crown
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how about this guy?
No 1 stars allowed. Posted on 2/16/12 at 4:50 pm to lil 7thward
But he is a beast
Posted on 2/16/12 at 5:12 pm to Captain Crown
When there's dozens of threads just like this it reaches a point where people who try to make these arguments about talent evaluation no longer deserve a response. When 1/4 of the people expected to go in this first round are 5* and another 1/3 are 4* it proves the efficacy of talent ratings. There are a couple hundred 5 & 4* in the country; there are thousands and thousands of 3, 2, and 1*. If you want to see this discussed further, look back and read the other threads on the same point.
This post was edited on 2/16/12 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 2/16/12 at 7:20 pm to LSU91MBA
stars DO matter. Just because they are wrong a certain percentage of the time, and there are notable low stars that turn out exceptional, do not mean they don't matter. Are you serious?
Posted on 2/16/12 at 7:42 pm to therocketscientist
Trent Richardson
Cam Newton
Tim Tebow
Vince Young
Reggie Bush
All beg to differ.
Cam Newton
Tim Tebow
Vince Young
Reggie Bush
All beg to differ.
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