re: An Elite QB Is A Must

Game managers and good college QBs usually win Championships, go look at recent history and you will find very few that have gone on to be great at the next level...

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WHoooaaa fruitcake. Calm down a little huh? I feel quite comfortable with what i know. Do you know what I know? What do you know that I don't know? I don't know my friend...Do you?

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Quite frankly, No one is sure what you know. Your QB premise isn't really holding water. Here's the last 10 BCS championships.
99 Florida State
00 Oklahoma
01 Miami
02 Ohio State
03 LSU
04 USC
05 Texas
06 Florida
07 LSU
08 Florida
09 Alabama

Look back at the QB's for the last 10 I would say that two of the ten will ever be NFL starting QBs. In fact, most of those guys strongest attributes were selfless, unwaivering leadership, and smart QB play. Not to mention that more specifically, LSU has had more success with those type of QB's.

Now, if you look at those teams, maybe you can figure the one glaring point that made those teams great. And, it's not on offense.

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I know that you feel threatened quite easily.

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pot meet kettle. Your high and mighty posts are laughable. OBUDan and you seem to be working together and he approaches things without the same "all knowing" attitude. Cut the crap.


ETA: If you look back at the ten, people fail to realize the importance of the season QB. Everyone of those guys were upperclassmen. That's not a coincidence either.

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pot meet kettle. Your high and mighty posts are laughable. OBUDan and you seem to be working together and he approaches things without the same "all knowing" attitude. Cut the crap.


ETA: If you look back at the ten, people fail to realize the importance of the season QB. Everyone of those guys were upperclassmen. That's not a coincidence either.

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I agree!

Exactly...This guy comes out with "definitive pronouncements" as if his words are set in stone. The one thing I know about recruiting is that as commits come in and the roster changes over the course of the recruiting year due to attrition, the needs of the coaching staff change to some extent. Generally, nothing is for sure until signing day.

LSU may sign an elite QB or none at all. Then again they may take the best they can get (a “non-elite” to quote jimmyd) if Lee goes to pro baseball. Then again they may take none, if he doesn't. It is very fluid and LSU is going to put offers out there for a QB even if ultimately they don't want one due to Lee or this being a small signing class.

But, when this guy comes out with his "word from on high" and makes comments in terms of "absolutes"...I'll be the first to challenge him on it as bullshite!

And, I won't apologize if I ruffle his feathers because he is not dealing in reality...he is dealing as if he is shopping from the recruiting sites for talent like he is the one with the money going down an isle in the grocery store.

Part being a recruiting fan is putting yourself in the mind of the coaching staff and trying to determine what they are thinking. I am often wrong, but it is a mindset that the most avid recruiting followers take.

From his comments, I don't see jimmyd thinking about recruiting as if he is putting himself in the coaches shoes and trying to figure out how and what they are thinking.

My opinions are often wrong and I admit it when I am wrong.

But, an elite QB for 2011 is definitely NOT A MUST! If we have to have one, we may not be able to get "an elite" one.

So much for jimmyd’s ego!

I completely agree that defense wins championships these days in college football... however

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Joe Flacco

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actually a fairly highly touted QB coming out of high school if I remember correctly.

Then again I wouldn't particularly consider him a Top 10 or 15 QB in the NFL either.

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Its a shame how you guys act. Some of the info i share is chargeable info. Yet we provide it out of respect to Chicken for free. Be a dick and find a source. My info will remain that. My info.

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I don't understand your sensitivity, but regardless I'll stay out of the pissing matches that are apparently running rampant on the boards. I could do without the riddles, but whatever.

But back to the topic... look, no one is going to turn down an "elite" QB. This is a point that I think needs to be reiterated because I seriously doubt that people are arguing that they in fact do not want an elite QB.

However, the trend in college football has been that elite defenses win championships. Manning leaves UT and they win a championship. Russell leaves LSU and they win a championship.

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I say you don't need and "Elite" QB

I say you don't want just a "Game Manager"

In the middle of those two is my initial post, which is the most likely scenario to come to fruition and keep LSU near the top

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I think that's a fair assessment if you're talking about "need" rather than "want." And I think that's where you're coming from.

You know, another thing that has to be hashed out before LSU even thinks about recruiting an "elite" QB is there needs to be a scheme. Shepard was recruited to be a spread-option QB. Garrett is obviously more of a pocket passer. The past couple of years, we can't seem to figure out if we're going to run the passing attack out of the I-formation via a playaction/bootleg game or if we're going to run a fast-paced quasi-spread attack.

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The phrase "lack of identity" has been used a lot since August.

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Yeah, and I'm certainly not a doom-and-gloomer, but when people start throwing around the phrase "elite" QB, you have to know that those guys are going to want to end up in an established offense, with an established OC or QB coach, in a scheme that best fits their skillsets and gives them the best chance to move toward the league.

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yeah, I could care less about your "someone is about to commit but I can't say who it is" posts. That's cool that you might have some inside info. I would use it more for good instead of looking for praise. That's actually pretty high school type behavior.

Clearly an elite QB hasn't been a must for us. Rohan Davey and JaMarcus were our most talented QBs over the last decade and they couldn't achieve what the Matts did.

our path to winning the NC has been a good defense, a great running game and a game manager at QB.