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Posted on 2/24/13 at 4:21 pm to wish i was tebow
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How do you think it would go if I went to aggie land thread and said hey I think one of y'all's best recruits isn't really good, I watched a film and he didn't do a backflip so I'm not impressed
You'll note from several comments I've made that I'm not contending his elite status. The offer list precludes any real argument in that regard.
I just find it a little peculiar that he doesn't jump out on the film. But maybe his qualities aren't as easily detectable to the untrained eye? I was thinking someone could offer some clarification.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 4:23 pm to VermilionTiger
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How do you think it would go if I went to aggie land thread and said hey I think one of y'all's best recruits isn't really good, I watched a film and he didn't do a backflip so I'm not impressed
I am a self-professed troll--no doubt about it. But I don't ever try to hide the ball, and I don't troll on boards that specifically prohibit it.
I'm not trolling here. And I wasn't trolling on the last SECR thread.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 4:23 pm to DWag215
We have given specific reasons why he is every bit deserving of those 5 stars. You are just ignoring it.
He is super fluid shedding blockers to make tackles like they are the plague
Quick feet, fluid hips.
Very good speed
He is playing way out of position as a safety but he is solid on coverage when its needed.
I personally like how well he adjusts to plays the most.
He is super fluid shedding blockers to make tackles like they are the plague
Quick feet, fluid hips.
Very good speed
He is playing way out of position as a safety but he is solid on coverage when its needed.
I personally like how well he adjusts to plays the most.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 4:24 pm to DWag215
Sometimes athletes are rated on potential.
He doesn't have the greatest film in the world, youre right. But he shuts down the best in the country at every camp he attends.
He doesn't have the greatest film in the world, youre right. But he shuts down the best in the country at every camp he attends.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 4:24 pm to memphstigers23
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So Paris isn't in your discussion ?
I thought Paris was a safety?? If he's a CB, than yes. Paris in a landslide.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 4:26 pm to VermilionTiger
Big Lake, appreciate the response.
Is it the general thought that he's amassed his offers/rating because of camp performances?
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But he shuts down the best in the country at every camp he attends.
Is it the general thought that he's amassed his offers/rating because of camp performances?
Posted on 2/24/13 at 4:27 pm to DWag215
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Is it the general thought that he's amassed his offers/rating because of camp performances?
Thats true for almost everyone. Camps are far more important than game film. Game film is used more for intangibles.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 4:28 pm to DWag215
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Is it the general thought that he's amassed his offers/rating because of camp performances?
He's not a safety. He plays majority of the game at safety. When hes playing CB lining up 1 on 1 against the best WR's in the nation, he shows out.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 4:34 pm to Big Lake
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Camps are far more important than game film. Game film is used more for intangibles.
I've never really grasped that, I guess.
But this would explain why Tony's garnered the hype notwithstanding what some (including me) don't see on film.
That's what I was looking to get from the thread. Thanks.
This post was edited on 2/24/13 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 2/24/13 at 4:34 pm to VermilionTiger
Good deal. Thanks.
And just for future reference, when I start another seemingly awful troll thread, you can probably assume it's awful because it's not intended to troll.
And just for future reference, when I start another seemingly awful troll thread, you can probably assume it's awful because it's not intended to troll.
This post was edited on 2/24/13 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 2/24/13 at 4:35 pm to VermilionTiger
I work in Beaumont and know several people that have seen every snap he's played. Consensus opinion is cover skills and hitting in secondary is elite, his biggest drawback is he will ole some head up hits in run support. Doesn't like to take on bigger backs one on one.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 4:37 pm to DWag215
I don't mind opposing fans who want to engage in legitimate discussion about a prospect.
I wish I could see more of his coverage skills in film.
I wish I could see more of his coverage skills in film.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 4:38 pm to DWag215
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I've never really grasped that, I guess.
But this would explain why Tony's garnered the hype notwithstanding what some (including me) don't see on film.
That's what I was looking to get from the thread. Thanks.
I honestly want to know what film you are watching. I am more or less limited to highlight videos on Rivals, in which he looks pretty good. and other videos that talk about how good he looked at camps.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 4:38 pm to BOSCEAUX
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his biggest drawback is he will ole some head up hits in run support. Doesn't like to take on bigger backs one on one.
I guess that's what I sort of notice on film. I don't see him striking through ball carriers. He doesn't appear all that "sudden," if you will.
But that's not a necessary trait of an elite corner. Need to keep in mind he's playing out of position a lot.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 4:41 pm to DWag215
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DWag215
You may be the most rational Aggie I've ever met
Posted on 2/24/13 at 4:41 pm to DWag215
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But that's not a necessary trait of an elite corner. Need to keep in mind he's playing out of position a lot.
Right. I would much rather him be lockdown on the outside than a soul crushing tackler at the los if I had to choose.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 4:41 pm to SammyTiger
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I honestly want to know what film you are watching. I am more or less limited to highlight videos on Rivals, in which he looks pretty good. and other videos that talk about how good he looked at camps.
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This is sophomore film. I'll go grab some junior tape.
It's not that he looks bad, and you're right, he looks "pretty good." But I've just not seen all-world 5 star stuff.
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